elmoputney Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, Golden Paws said: Because he was an absolute disaster and practically gifted the Tories the biggest majority for many years. This was the bloke who invited the IRA to Parliament when they were still bombing us. The bloke who is so blinded by the Palestinian cause that he is anti semitic. The bloke who only days ago was lecturing us that supplying weapons to Ukraine is prolonging the war and we would should be looking for peace. But at what cost! I remember the day he was elected and a bloke who I worked with was pleased as he had voted for him. I shook his hand and congratulated on electing Britain's most electable man! I think that a lot of Labour voters had the sudden realisation that they had made a huge mistake. If Andy Burnham would have got the top job, Labour could have won the last election. Now prove all those statements as factual, and not daily mail flannel guff, and for the record what is so wrong with trying to encourage peace talks rather than supplying more bombs ? Is it because there is no profit in that? I didn't really notice bozo doing anything much other than fuelling the fire, who are these wars for? And who ultimately loses each time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commonly Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Golden Paws said: Because he was an absolute disaster and practically gifted the Tories the biggest majority for many years. This was the bloke who invited the IRA to Parliament when they were still bombing us. The bloke who is so blinded by the Palestinian cause that he is anti semitic. The bloke who only days ago was lecturing us that supplying weapons to Ukraine is prolonging the war and we would should be looking for peace. But at what cost! I remember the day he was elected and a bloke who I worked with was pleased as he had voted for him. I shook his hand and congratulated on electing Britain's most electable man! I think that a lot of Labour voters had the sudden realisation that they had made a huge mistake. If Andy Burnham would have got the top job, Labour could have won the last election. This proves my point! I'm so sorry mate. Please, please verify the media source. Do you believe that tripe!! As Elmo said, he met these people to try and achieve peace😔 The majority of his policies would of benefitted the majority of the country. Right wing media waged the biggest media war on him, to be unelectable. So as, not to see their huge profits being taxed. 3 hours ago, framey said: They are all as bad as each other and none of them are worth voting for Yes, but it's people that don't vote, that has allowed our country to be run into the ground. Vote green, lib dem or raving looney party. Any way to get a change. I see this thread being deleted, but this is my only social media outlet, so I hope not elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 No one wanted a war in Ukraine. (Although I do remember Elmo saying that it was Boris that had caused it?) What is the end point? Do we turn our backs on Ukraine and let Russia take over? (He got away with it in Crimea and though that he would again.) If he succeeds in taking Ukraine, what does he do next? History teaches us that ruthless dictators are never satisfied and he will probably be eying up one of the Baltic States next. And the next and the next until he's just over the English Channel. It's OK to be a pacifist until a tyrant is breathing down your neck. What would Jeremy do to achieve peace? How much would he give away? Would Putin be satisfied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, Golden Paws said: No one wanted a war in Ukraine. (Although I do remember Elmo saying that it was Boris that had caused it?) What is the end point? Do we turn our backs on Ukraine and let Russia take over? (He got away with it in Crimea and though that he would again.) If he succeeds in taking Ukraine, what does he do next? History teaches us that ruthless dictators are never satisfied and he will probably be eying up one of the Baltic States next. And the next and the next until he's just over the English Channel. It's OK to be a pacifist until a tyrant is breathing down your neck. What would Jeremy do to achieve peace? How much would he give away? Would Putin be satisfied? More cobblers, I probably said exactly what I said today, and that rather than diffuse it he would add more fuel to the fire, perhaps if the west weren't so Interested in the Ukraine and had kept there grubby little paws out it wouldn't have happened, it was just such a good untapped resource they couldn't resist, if you believe it's just about a tyrant then you are only seeing one side of the narrative, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell3 Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 I have voted for both parties before i voted tory when cameron won obv my mp stayed labour, that vote went due to me not liking blair and his lacky they stiched the hunting act into a GE really not fair that if we was a republic it would be a tyranny the masses form of democracy. I voted for every lefties pin up girl last time out Zarha Sultana will next time as well elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, Carpbell3 said: I have voted for both parties before i voted tory when cameron won obv my mp stayed labour, that vote went due to me not liking blair and his lacky they stiched the hunting act into a GE really not fair that if we was a republic it would be a tyranny the masses form of democracy. I voted for every lefties pin up girl last time out Zarha Sultana will next time as well She is worth her weight in gold that one, do look after her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 7 hours ago, commonly said: Yes, but it's people that don't vote, that has allowed our country to be run into the ground. Vote green, lib dem or raving looney party. Any way to get a change. I see this thread being deleted, but this is my only social media outlet, so I hope not Unfortunately, You have to vote for someone who’s policies you believe in to be able to cast a vote, I haven’t seen a ‘buffoon’ from any party around my way canvassing for votes for at least 10 years. I don’t tend to get involved in political threads so I’m going to bow out again. But agree hope it doesn’t get pulled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commonly Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, framey said: You have to vote for someone who’s policies you believe in Really, how's that working out for you? 90% of Corben's policies everyone would agree with. Tell them it's Corben's policy and they backtrack?? Personally I have had enough of being taxed to the eyeballs & for what?? Where does it all go?? I would ask anyone to name any public service that has improved in recent decades? NHS? Police and rescue services? Inland revenue? Education? Roads? Energy and fuel? & the one that sickens my stomach our beloved coastlines and waterways 😤🤬 C'mon sheeple, it takes the masses to effect change! (sorry if that sounds like I'm on a soapbox) & I'm only registered, not involved) ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 For me it's the corruption in the tories that is so bare faced, that ignoring it is dangerous, look at liz truss she has been in the job a week already looking to borrow a further 150bn to subsidise the energy companies, who are already making vast profits for the shareholders each quarter, but not enough to reduce their profits with a windfall tax, now personally this is where Labour doesn't now go far enough now, and the only real solution should be renationalising our utilities, because bringing them back into public ownership would basically mean all profits would be reinvested rather than grifted into an offshore tax haven like they are now, there certainly wouldn't have been a cost of living crisis and the tax payers wouldn't be gifting some fat cats 150bn to essentially continue to overcharge us, But that's what you voted for, tories = corruption, sleaze, self interest and capitalism, its capitalism that causes wars, dumps sewage into your waterways, causes poverty, and keeps your wages low, it's capitalism that buys all the houses and rents them back to you at extortionate rates, and it's capitalism that is going to destroy the planet, Why do capitalists spend so long telling you socialism doesn't work? It's pretty simple the few want all the money and don't want you to stop giving them cheap labour, basically they enjoy having you as a slave and find many ways to make you poorer, basically they are parasites and they have an abundance of everything and you give your life to work and end up about as rich as when you started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry211 Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 11/09/2022 at 21:58, newmarket said: Hang on Trotsky … on a slightly lighter note for this thread my old next door neighbour was ex-BBC and worked in the costume department and would regale us with tales of working on this show. we would rib the hell out of him for this and not because of the politics but because trying to claim fame as wolfie smiths dresser did not really require much effort in the outfit choice. he sadly passed in 2004 (my neighbour not wolfie) but will forever be remembered as the man that suggested jeans and a t-shirt as the uniform of choice for Tooting Popular Front.... politics and religion are never dull subjects and all seriousness aside having worked in a closed shop and also non union places i support everyones right to either strike or not but thats why we have this system whether broken or not. i for one will always support power for the people and freedom for tooting in loving memory of Roger Reece the costume designer extraordinaire welder, commonly and levigsp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 11 hours ago, barry211 said: on a slightly lighter note for this thread my old next door neighbour was ex-BBC and worked in the costume department and would regale us with tales of working on this show. we would rib the hell out of him for this and not because of the politics but because trying to claim fame as wolfie smiths dresser did not really require much effort in the outfit choice. he sadly passed in 2004 (my neighbour not wolfie) but will forever be remembered as the man that suggested jeans and a t-shirt as the uniform of choice for Tooting Popular Front.... politics and religion are never dull subjects and all seriousness aside having worked in a closed shop and also non union places i support everyones right to either strike or not but thats why we have this system whether broken or not. i for one will always support power for the people and freedom for tooting in loving memory of Roger Reece the costume designer extraordinaire Best post so far. Ian. barry211 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 13/09/2022 at 18:31, elmoputney said: For me it's the corruption in the tories that is so bare faced, that ignoring it is dangerous, look at liz truss she has been in the job a week already looking to borrow a further 150bn to subsidise the energy companies, who are already making vast profits for the shareholders each quarter, but not enough to reduce their profits with a windfall tax, The EU are going to force the energy companies to use their profits to reduce prices. Thanks to Brexit, Truss can do what she wants now we have got back control (and given it to her). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, carpepecheur said: The EU are going to force the energy companies to use their profits to reduce prices. Thanks to Brexit, Truss can do what she wants now we have got back control (and given it to her). Lol the old B word nobody wants to mention, they have been stripping the country bare ever since, blaming covid, Russians, oligarchs, and Jeremy Corbyn, everyone but themselves Is it just the French goverment that have also knocked 30 cents off a litre of fuel? Or is that an EU thing too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Well.....was my birthday yesterday and it all went down hill from the moment I woke up. Wife got me a few bits for fishing, new Sonik Bobble Hat, n some bits.... THEN, on my way work the DPF light came in car, so I took it to motorway and gave it a good 30min blow out, thought it cleared it, then had an oil leak starting after that. Woke up this morning and it was like an oil bath, ring as many garages as I could find in Wigan, and on about the 20th he's fitted it in today....NOW problems are, Whistling Turbo, Leaking Turbo, Cracked oil pan, Broken Oil Seal, Broken Oil Plug.... £300 + and will get it back Wednesday..... Today I was going to book Cudmore for my birthday also off the Wife, but that has beenet down like a lead balloon.... finchey and B B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) On 15/09/2022 at 13:09, elmoputney said: Is it just the French goverment that have also knocked 30 cents off a litre of fuel? Or is that an EU thing too? It is just the French government knocking 30 cents/ litre off petrol (roughly £1 per gallon). We used to nip over to Spain for cheap petrol, now they come here. It is the EU however who are going to force the energy companies to pay for the energy price cap rather than dump the cost on us poor consumers. Edited September 16, 2022 by carpepecheur elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 16, 2022 Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, carpepecheur said: It is just the French government knocking 30 cents/ litre off petrol (roughly £1 per gallon). We used to nip over to Spain for cheap petrol, now they come here. It is the EU however who are going to force the energy companies to pay for the energy price cap rather than dump the cost on us poor consumers. Must be nice having a government that wants to help its people a bit 😉 carpepecheur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 I think the UK government does care about its people- at least if they are rich Tory donors or powerful political influencers - just not you and me. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 After absorbing the latest Truss budget and the wooing of rich bankers with unlimited bonuses, I'm concerned. Don't worry, I haven't turned into a Corbynite! She was elected by only about 200,000 Conservative Party members and I would fully agree that it's not democracy in it's true form. Especially as she came 3rd in the MP's voting until Penny Mourdant withdrew. Boris was a populist (sorry Elmo but he did have a certain charm and his bumbling persona was part of his appeal) but unfortunately he wore it out and his Party turned against him. I suspect a lot of Tory MP's might be like turkey's in regretting voting for an early Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) On 24/09/2022 at 13:35, Golden Paws said: After absorbing the latest Truss budget and the wooing of rich bankers with unlimited bonuses, I'm concerned. Don't worry, I haven't turned into a Corbynite! She was elected by only about 200,000 Conservative Party members and I would fully agree that it's not democracy in it's true form. Especially as she came 3rd in the MP's voting until Penny Mourdant withdrew. Boris was a populist (sorry Elmo but he did have a certain charm and his bumbling persona was part of his appeal) but unfortunately he wore it out and his Party turned against him. I suspect a lot of Tory MP's might be like turkey's in regretting voting for an early Christmas! You should have been worried ages ago this is just the final death rattle,they've already done much worse, they've done a destroy and exit now, even GB news has started praising starmer now, which Definately highlights how untrustworthy he is, The tories are finished they really don't have a leg to stand on now, you have kwasi on drugs at the queen's funeral making economic decisions and really bad ones, that will make us suffer for years to come, it's a class war now and if you can't see that then you will have a rude awakening sometime, I won't rise to the anti Corbyn comment, just let you know you are wrong but you will never seek to understand why, but you should the truth is out there, he will be reinstated soon, call it a hunch, As for Boris's charm, yes he was pretty good on have I got news for you, but the fact he pretty much got sacked from every job for lying, really never made him prime minister material, he was finished because of his corruption, they were quick to get rid of him because his ties with the kgb were about to come out, and we all know the tories really loved the oligarchy, if you still think tories have done a good job then it's looking really hopeless because I bet you can't name the things they've done well? Edited September 26, 2022 by elmoputney commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commonly Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 They (Tories) can't name a single benefit from brexit. Despite it being rich as smugg's job for the past 2 years??? OH! Sorry, apart from now they have lifted the cap on their pals bonuses🤮 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 New weather front coming in tomorrow, low pressure, big winds and lots of rain. My last session was supposed to be my last for a while but I think it might be too good to miss. The reservoir I'm on can produce some big fish during storms 😆 checking the forecast I can get setup in the morning before it arrives 👍 elmoputney, B B and ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 Just out of curiosity, how do people find the Avid Ascent Bivvys ?...maybe coming into a 2 Man Version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell3 Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 Thursday Thursday vroom vroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 Just now, Carpbell3 said: Thursday Thursday vroom vroom Don't mention Cars (vroom vroom).... These past 2 weeks couldn't get any worse.... 1stly....Start of last week, little ens school informed me n wife that our son is a RACIST I hit the roof and went in to find out why, basically they were in Georaphy and there is a Country in Africa spelt Niger (sorry for this in advance and no offenec)....obviously spelt out it says the word, but it is pronounced differently....obviously we got to the bottom of it and he was talking about the spelling does say the word during school and they gave him isolation for it....hit the roof again and all to all it ended up as an educational inquiry.... 2ndly....middle of last week the car decided to have a massive dump of oil in front of the house, £300 bill to fix all oil hoses, oil pan, oil seal, oil plugs, oil filter, labour n fresh oil... 3rdly...this week (monday) my lad (yr8)was on the bus on way home from school when out of no where a yr10 pupil snatched his phone off him, stamped all over, then mi lad went pick it up and the yr10 punched him in the face, my lad hit his head on window, then the yr10 repeatedly hit him over the head with a metal water bottle....School, AnE and police in 1 night....gone down as Criminal Damage n Assault.....put it this way, school will be having an ofsted visit and maybe article in paper if nothing comes of this.... 4thly...last night on way from work, car (again) sounds like a blender in any gear, fine in neutral....RAC towed me to garage, and so far just without looking sounds like clutch,gearbox may have dropped from each other....another £300+ bill I think.... 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 commonly and elmoputney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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