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Went to my guesting lake earlier. Saw 3 eastern euros going into my spot. Long story short I found the line they had put out with multiple hooks tied to a bottle under the reeds. The bottle is now full of my urine with the 4 massive hooks positioned perfectly to do some damage when they reach in to pick it up.

If you are rich or live in a nice area you generally have to pay more tax for the priveledge unless you are a politician or someone who lives in private school areas like Wandsworth or Westminster where state schools don't exist then council tax is heavily reduced for the privileged few that can afford to live there It's not just the justice system that's broken it's all broken

Exactly as yonny says. Also I wouldn't use them when fishing over bars, gullies, plateaus etc.

You can use them in deeper lakes (depending how deep 'deeper' is). Tight lines - indication is bad enough when using back leads so you don't want to make it any worse. Not good for use in weed - very bad in fact. Whack them at the bottom of the shelf - to keep the lines pinned down as intended. 👍

Shocking that the police are at it as well!

Yes ,but I give them a kiss and put them back, not eat them.

I've been to loads of day tickets where there is litter left all over the shop though and that isn't just Europeans it's just lazy People, I don't like litter of any kind being left by anyone,I had a go at a posh English woman cos she let her dog stinky winky on the playing field, she had to pick it up on her coat cos she didn't have any bags 😁 There are good and bad in all walks of life,perhaps there needs to be better education on fishing laws in this country I heard in Germany you have to take an exam before you are allowed a fishing licence that could work

He did go into more detail that was mainly the bullet point,and he found this after doing underwater filming for a couple of years it was quite interesting tbh,while I agree that you have to use the right set up for the right situation, I still think learning from others can help you think develop your own angling, you can learn a lot from listening to other people's opinions and trying them yourself OR manipulating into your situation (which is generally what I do with the info I like to think),even if afterwards you think it was a waste if time you've still learnt it was a waste of time rather than wondering about it, Maybe now I've gone fill circle and realised simple is best

I agree. I disagree, too much of a sweeping statement for me that is. Rig length should be chosen to perform on a given substrate - to suit the rig and the angling situation. For every known angler that tells us one thing there is another known angler telling us something completely different. I wouldn't take any of it as gospel mate. I try to let the carp teach me what I need to know. A few hours watching the fish you're trying to catch will tell you more than any known angler can.

I am starting to agree with that comment I think,tonight will be simple rig tying, I was listening to the Nash tackle podcast last night and mark voosen said we tend to overcomplicate rigs and length is one of the more important things he said the longer the rig the more pick ups but the shorter it is more runs (Its just finding the sweet spot in the middle that does the best of both )

I’m going to also use the helicopter rig. I feel a bit more confident in using that rig. Thanks

Cheers lads appreciate the info. 👍

That's why I always use running rigs..... very safe. 👍

They came back earlier while my mate was there. They didn't hang around long once he started tearing into them. Has them on video now and cut another long story short the 2 of us now have permission to fish the lakes from security as long as we report anyone who looks dodgy and get photographs of them.

The Helicopter rig , pay no attention to the hook use what you use, I personally think this is the safest rig .

I couldn't find the line last Night but was sure it was there. So at the end of the session i dragged the lead and rig through the margin and hooked onto it. The thing to look for is some sort of hand reel or a bottle buried under the reeds.

Nightmare mate!!! 🤬 Can only hope you get a decent hook hold , come collection.

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A mate I fish with has had his since the late 90s and they were second hand then ,havnt missed a beat for him , he fishes roughly every 3 weeks

My Optonics are circa 1981... still going strong🤣😎