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31lb 8oz 👍

Had these from the canal today 👍 24lb 12lb 14oz 19lb 4oz

There are certainly some still around. My old syndicate lake had 4 known originals in it when I fished there, all from an original stocking of Leney's. As far as I'm aware they are all still in there, I stopped fishing there 5 yrs ago but I still chat to mates on there and the usual one was caught last year and the most sought after one came out this spring. Some members had been on there years trying to catch one but luckily for me my second fish from the lake was one and the most sort after one at that when I fished there. I had it in 2017 and it was 50yrs old then. It wasn't caught last year but made an appearance this spring so still going strong at 58yrs old. Another lake that may well hold some original Leney's is Frensham ponds.

Feral carp reverting towards the original wildie type have what is referred to as a Danubian Notch. However true wildies don't have it. I think it is like the straight head to the body, whereas bred carp have a slight dip.

I also used to make my own baits back in the day when you had to. i can’t be bothered to make them so I go to baitworks now as I like the ethos of the whole business. i happily pay what ever it says in the shopPing trolley I don’t want or ask for any further discounts or to beholden to any company for tackle or bait I buy and use what I deem the BEST for the purpose that I need at the time. happy to use almost any tackle company from A-Z apart from 2 one that starts with O as I don’t like their company ethos and the other I haven’t bought any from since they started blaming customers for incorrect use of their flame thrower stoves. i do own a few Nash products but yep they seem to have lost their way. was watching someone use one of their bushwhackers yesterday and it went out miles lol

Seriously been thinking about this. Nash bait, well did very well back in the day with ready mades when from memory was only competing against Richworth and maybe a few others? I used them a few times, not to bad tbh. Times have changed, they have been so much overtaken by sooo many bait firms, can't compete. Also the whole Nash brand I suspect will now do a nose dive, Alan Blair, that Jamie bloke, Carl and Alex. etc etc on social media will eventually die a death, tbh if I was the bloke I would sell the lot at his age and just retire with his own lake to fish. As an old git I actually don't care anymore about these old firms...... except the demise of Premier Baits who actually sent me a free T Shirt, which I wore for many a pic 🙂

I got hold of Hutchy's Golden Years after pre-ordering it almost as soon as it was given a release date. Rod Hutchinson was, or is, an angling hero of mine, and I have read many of his own books; from bait to tackle he was a pioneer and understood more than us mere mortals will ever get, so I was really interested in his early life and journey into carp fishing and this book most definitely does not disappoint. From his time at Redmire with Chris Yates, to Savay, with chapters on his captures by long time companion Brian Hankins and his joy for fishing and life by Simon Crow.

On my water they do the job for tufties, coots, moorhens and swans. The mallards aren't bothered but they tend not to cause a problem in anything over around 3 ft depth. I got rid of my laser pen several years ago after I saw how the carp react to it. I was perched in the lower branches of a tree watching the carp that were on my spot just up the margin. A couple of coots were diving on it so I got the pen out to scare them off. Big mistake. As the laser hits the water it refracts, and a bright green stripe akin to a light sabre trails through the water. The water is that much denser than air that it really accentuates the laser.... it looked awful. The carp were absolutely horrified - they immediately bolted right out of the bay I was in, and didn't come back until the same time the next day. It was that bad I literally binned the laser as soon as I got home.

I’ve not really had the rods out in anger for a while, but my daughter has been showing me how it’s done with her first carp from a little campsite pond.

@emmcee. lovely looking fish, glad there are still some around 👍. @salokcinnodrog Frensham ponds still on a Farnham angling club ticket, sadly as you say had a massive fish kill and tbh the big lake is now just unfishable, even if you wanted to in summer as rammed with swimmers and tourists. Used to be a lake near there many years ago that was an old skool venue tho, think Andy Little used to fish there??

I have a Leney from Redmire that as a baby made its way to Norfolk. The excessively successful spawning of the Redmire fish, with other originals, many of the netted fish were sold off to various buyers across the country.

Do any of you watch dave lanes videos? He had a bit of a shocker with some swans this week. I won't spoil it but it was a funny story.

The joys of angling hey, good job we like wildlife or they'd get it at times for sure! 😆👍

Wow ! , I'm guessing not from the canal ? .

Duck free lol aaaagh!!! On the plus side I learnt to fill them up with mixers late evening Saturday, that worked - no more diving and 3 passing single fish stopped and had a few too, Sunday morning they weren't too much trouble. Before that basically all day Saturday they destroyed my 2 spots - I reckon they've eaten about 15kilo over the last 2 weekends most of which was boilie! So much for getting spots going 👎 I did catch one (a duck) Saturday early evening and that did scare them off for a while, tapped him on the beak and called him 'Stupid', that showed him lol Next 6 weeks I'm in work on Fridays so will be getting there late or going early Saturday. I need to find where these fish do their early morning feeds because I'm not getting enough traffic in this part of the lake and the ducks well they're just being ducks - and lots of them. Might need a complete change of approach going forward tbh

Well done , jh92 , especially in this heat . My favourite is the last 'photo , the smaller dark mirror . 😀

Every few minutes........... Ian.

View from last weekend, got excited with my bait mix smashed it all in then had duck wars over it all night lol On the plus side I found what feels like a banging area so might well be back on that tonight, less bait lol 🤞

I suppose you could argue that Terry Hearns first book, in pursuit of the largest and Dave Lanes obsession with carp are creeping into old school territory now? After all, they are documenting famous waters from the early 90s, nigh on 30yrs now! Where has the time gone?

I was trying to think of the name of Frensham Ponds, that's the subject of Chris Ball's chapter in Big Carp, I'll Let you Be in my Dreams. He had gotten the stocking records from Chris Yates. Sadly hit by a fish kill after a stocking of new fish.

Sad to see Nash Bait is being wrapped up, has released some classic mixes and flavours over the years https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C4wFLRCXM/

Lidsters portable loo....!! Game changer ,as some places don't have a loo..!

I also used to make my own for a very long time ,I lost count of how many companies I used to use ,flavour ,dips etc .. It was good fun at the time,now I use a local bait firm ,I just phone them up ,and pick it up straight from the rollers/factory ...gave my bait making stuff to my son..! I still got a bag of 20mm citruz I use for hookbaits only in winter.. I reckon the whole carp industry could suffer a downturn ,I'm not being horrible but it's constant wheel reinvention and upping the tc of rods..unnecessarily..for example to make sales,for sales sake ..but Nash ,does have kudos for various trends or tackle innovation, like scope,oval brolly ,titans etc ...on past times But then Chris Manifold took the innovation a whole lot further..

I used to fish a fantastic little complex ,it was rumoured to have been stocked by Surrey trout farm /Donald leney.. Anyway I got in contact with Chris Ball ( RIP) ,who a member of my family got to know,and asked about this place ,'was there any recorded stocking from Mr Leney '..he couldn't help me ,and said Chris Yates might know as he had the stocking records ,turns out Mark Walsingham had them due to ,at the time the Bernithian Court was being sorted out ,Redmire..and there was no mention of that stocking ..The original owner was said to have mentioned that's where his Carp came from in the mid to lake 70s .. I was fortunate to have done very well on this place ,multiple captures and repeats,and kept lots of 35mm self takes. Now it's been sadly sold and turned into yet another grim tourist venue ,known as Stone Rush,if you look at the aerial view on maps ,the bigger first lake in the valley ,the last 'orrid'lodge by the inflo ,was my favourite swim ..all the fish did look like Redmire fish ...who knows..?

Lovely looking Leney, they were deff something special 👍

Ah, see what you mean now 👍 Even the Leney Carp originally came from Holland, I believe, and used to be predominat in Horseshoe Lake in the 90's, now sadly long gone, they were lovely looking fish and one of the reasons I used to make a silly amount of miles to fish for them. 🙂

Roughtor, Not sure what the 'danubian notch' is? I get to Kernow twice a year, mainly to chill from stuff, last time I found a small lake rammed with smallish carp, lovely time catching on floaters and only one fishing there, obviously not wildies but long lean and so hard fighting and no mouth damage 👍 Good to fish somewhere with no bivvie city and carp idiots 😃

Cast One ridge more monkey ? 🐒😂

I would say that Rod was one of the finest (carp fishing) writers / story tellers I have read, certainly a big influence on me. Still have a copy of 'The Carp Strikes Back', so much info in there and also great tales of the older days too, must dig it out again 👍

And each will be 50p cheaper than the other company £3 a kilo guv…

Tufty torch doesn't work on here when the mallards and tufties are in the mood. The only thing that keeps them away is a laser pointer pen. In daylight you have to line up on them with the laser pen underneath your binoculars and 'ping' them, that gets rid of them. I had mallards diving over boilies and particles a few weeks ago. I hooked, landed and returned one. The swan last week was not fun either. There were swan wars at the time, and one of the more dominant in the group decided to chase a younger one which tangled up in the line about 2metres from the rod tip, despite the tips being almost touching the water. It took 10minutes to untangle the poxy thing, holding a swan between my legs, while untangling the line from it's wing, head and legs, all the time keeping away from Sky who was on her long lead attached to the bedchair. This week the swans are keeping across the other side of the lake.

Yes mate was using it, sometimes works amazingly - sometimes not at all it's a weird one with those. Firing out an empty spomb works but last resort which is why I went to feeding them floaters instead. Seems like the gits are just in this swim tbh 🤣

Have you tried a Tufty Torch Kev? I've just got one and it works well.

On a great run there mate 👍

Na mate, I'm on a lake with my dad for 24 hours 👍 hopefully back on the canal tomorrow night 👍

Those denture tablets make it very active lol

That's right , Jules , don't want to peak too early 😁 .

Thanks mate it was a red letter session for me 👍 everything just aligned and I managed to get 3 off the same spot in about 2 hours lol. They were really cool looking fish, dark and some scars, I think the 24 is one of the older ones 👍 100% best looking fish I've ever caught 👍

I used to forever play with ingredients in groundbait to make it 'active' and attractive for particular species. Roach love active groundbait and turmeric and ginger, so I would grind Ginger Nut biscuits and dry dog food and add them and a few teaspoons of turmeric to my groundbait mix of brown and white crumb. Bream and carp are not so worried about active groundbait, so it was looking for attractors rather than anything else.

Yeah dropped about a foot and a half to what it looks like is the natural level, it's mega, got 3-4 foot in the edge in most places still. Pressure drop and rain, hopefully I'll guess the right section if none spotted, but wind is swinging mid session. In it to win it 😎👍

Yep depends on what you want out of the mix 👍👍

A bit more info: https://www.carpology.net/article/features/the-carp-part-2-the-invasion-of-england/ As salokcinnodrog said 👍

It is believed that carp were introduced into Britain by the Romans, however it was monks who introduced them heavily in around the 1400's, as Catholics were not to eat meat on Fridays, so stew ponds were stocked with fish.

We had that yesterday, my mate caught a new pb and his first on a zig, I had a couple of bleeps on them but didn't get a bite before we had to pack up. Well worth sticking a zig out just incase.

Shock horror i managed to winkle out a little carp from the smaller pond, i was fishing mainly a bunch of maggots on size 10 hook with 10ft Diawa spinning rod and small freespool reel caught an Ide about 1.75lb, then a snotty (the Ide was a new species for me) i was just packing up and went to switch of bite alarm when it sounded a full on run, landed this nice little mirror just under 10lb but sadly the rod snapped for an unknown reason, might just be its age

Sold my 9 footers a few months back because I had no need for them.. just bought a set of 9ft scopes, picking them up tomorrow 👍🤣

I identify with that as well. And yes, I look at mates playing American football and think I used to do that. I'm also looking at kids coming through that weren't even born when I was playing. One of my mates I used to play with's son is now in the senior team. I retired from playing at 39, and now the kids who were starting then are now retiring.