snowmanstevo Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 One style of Mike Kavanner Multi Rig uses a curve hook,I use a chod type one and I don’t know why 🤔🤔🤔 probably because it looks ‘right’ with a chod hook...... I’ll try some with curves see how I go on cheers emmcee 😬😎👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchey Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I've been using the multi rig for around 12 months now and I've always used a curve shank hook with it and always a bank tackle size 6, up to now I don't think I've lost a fish in all that time. I'm 100% confident in this rig I use it for bottom baits, pop ups and wafters. A massive bonus for me is that it is so quick and easy to tie. 🙂👍 snowmanstevo, Machali, emmcee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchey Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 And forgot to mention there always hooked bang in the middle of the bottom lip. 🙂👍 snowmanstevo, Machali and crusian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, finchey said: I've been using the multi rig for around 12 months now and I've always used a curve shank hook with it and always a bank tackle size 6, up to now I don't think I've lost a fish in all that time. I'm 100% confident in this rig I use it for bottom baits, pop ups and wafters. A massive bonus for me is that it is so quick and easy to tie. 🙂👍 I use it as an all round rig as well. crusian, snowmanstevo and finchey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Looks better I think 👍 finchey, snowmanstevo, bluelabel and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Quite surprised how well a 10x15mm proper job is holding that lot up, perfect for bag rig pop ups, I think this combo may work even better with a bigger hookbait too finchey, Its-grim-up-north and ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I’m going to go back and splice all my hooklengths for the multi from now on found a splicable material I can use for it again. will work well for multi rigs and get it as low as I want. even standing straight of the eye If I want to Edited April 9, 2020 by framey elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, framey said: I’m going to go back and splice all my hooklengths for the multi from now on found a solid able material I can use for it again. will work well for multi rigs and get it as low as I want. even standing straight of the eye If I want to Spliceable hooklinks? You've got me interested lol I started researching but not sure where to start who makes good ones please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 One thing I found that makes a difference to how the rig sits, is to strip back the coating towards the knot.. if you do it the other way it makes the link behind the break in the coating curve instead of laying flat... but the you probably already knew that I s'pose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 This looks much better... crusian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its-grim-up-north Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I’ve messed about a lot with the multi rig and different hook patterns, I switched to a size 4 curv shank and never looked back. I usually use a soft coated braid with a anti tangle sleeve and a sinker half way up the hooklength and a 3.5 oz lead. I use a stiff braid when the lake bed allows me to. Edited April 9, 2020 by Its-grim-up-north elmoputney, emmcee, bluelabel and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, elmoputney said: Spliceable hooklinks? You've got me interested lol I started researching but not sure where to start who makes good ones please? I crumbled and bought some ridgemonkey stuff last night so don’t expect it until next week. If they have it in stock https://ridgemonkey.co.uk/productnews/714-2 fox do a 50lb one ? I also alreadyhave the avid lead free leader I can try it on though but at 40lb it may be a little thick but I will give it a go May see if I can splice some regular braid hook link stuff I have already Edited April 9, 2020 by framey elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 50lb avid touchdown not 40lb sorry and a size 4 Gardner chod hook The 50 is too stiff to get through the eye easy but it does lock it in well as it’s doubled it does stand up higher where the splice is but I have no doubts the 20 would work really well if it’s a good braid. neat though huh ? Edited April 9, 2020 by framey elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, framey said: I crumbled and bought some ridgemonkey stuff last night so don’t expect it until next week. If they have it in stock https://ridgemonkey.co.uk/productnews/714-2 fox do a 50lb one ? I also alreadyhave the avid lead free leader I can try it on though but at 40lb it may be a little thick but I will give it a go May see if I can splice some regular braid hook link stuff I have already Funnily enough I had the avid stuff, so I also gave it a go splices nicely but didn't want to go through the eye, I used a size 4, on my travels of the interweb today I found some IB HOOKS JUNGLE ROPE 25lb spliceable hooklink braid 50m for £15, I've taken A Punt will let you know what it's like, they seem to do some quite cool rig bits on there site actually, worth having a look I think 👍 Let me know how you get on with the ridgemonkey stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) I had to do the floss through the eye trick to get it in still a sod to do.I like the 1 strand of material running down the back of the hook though. use the other end of the material to go through the eye not the spliced loop and it will go Edited April 9, 2020 by framey elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Its-grim-up-north said: I’ve messed about a lot with the multi rig and different hook patterns, I switched to a size 4 curv shank and never looked back. I usually use a soft coated braid with a anti tangle sleeve and a sinker half way up the hooklength and a 3.5 oz lead. I use a stiff braid when the lake bed allows me to. Looks spot on mate. 👍 crusian, snowmanstevo and Its-grim-up-north 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 hours ago, finchey said: I've been using the multi rig for around 12 months now and I've always used a curve shank hook with it and always a bank tackle size 6, up to now I don't think I've lost a fish in all that time. I'm 100% confident in this rig I use it for bottom baits, pop ups and wafters. A massive bonus for me is that it is so quick and easy to tie. 🙂👍 Hi Finchey I see that you are using a SZ.6 rather than a SZ.4 like Emmcee , and I'm wondering if like me you are targeting 20s' rather than 30s' and 40s' ? . As you mentioned Bank Tackle , I asked them if they had any plans to introduce Ready Made Rigs , and they will be in the future , which is just what I wanted to learn as I always seem to find excuses for not making up some rigs . 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchey Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 5 hours ago, crusian said: Hi Finchey I see that you are using a SZ.6 rather than a SZ.4 like Emmcee , and I'm wondering if like me you are targeting 20s' rather than 30s' and 40s' ? . As you mentioned Bank Tackle , I asked them if they had any plans to introduce Ready Made Rigs , and they will be in the future , which is just what I wanted to learn as I always seem to find excuses for not making up some rigs . 😃 The answer to your question is yes 20's if I'm lucky but usually doubles. I find these rigs so easy to tie, the hardest part for me is getting the loop for the hook the right size apart from that there a doddle. 🙂👍 Its-grim-up-north 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 10 hours ago, framey said: 50lb avid touchdown not 40lb sorry and a size 4 Gardner chod hook The 50 is too stiff to get through the eye easy but it does lock it in well as it’s doubled it does stand up higher where the splice is but I have no doubts the 20 would work really well if it’s a good braid. neat though huh ? Don't know if you remember my comment from years ago about being able to splice 25lb Kryston Merlin, I think it is possible with a number of braided hooklinks. The only difference in my case was the only knot was to the swivel and it was through the eye of the hook, but I reckon you could Multi-rig with any uncoated braid over 15lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hopefully nick i have checked my box and I don’t have any “proper” braid over 10lb so would have to try with coated for now and strip it. I used to have octosplice in 8lb years ago salokcinnodrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 hours ago, finchey said: The answer to your question is yes 20's if I'm lucky but usually doubles. I find these rigs so easy to tie, the hardest part for me is getting the loop for the hook the right size apart from that there a doddle. 🙂👍 Thanks , Finchey . I forgot to ask , and as you mentioned " the loop " , Emmcee has an 1 1/2" loop ( with a SZ.4 ) , what size loop do you have with your SZ.6 , pls. ? . 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchey Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 hours ago, crusian said: Thanks , Finchey . I forgot to ask , and as you mentioned " the loop " , Emmcee has an 1 1/2" loop ( with a SZ.4 ) , what size loop do you have with your SZ.6 , pls. ? . 😃 I don't actually measure the size of the loop I make just big enough to fit over the hook, it's just trial and era with me because if I use the rig for a pop up I like it pop up as short as I can get it. I hope this helps you Crusian.🙂👍 Its-grim-up-north 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 hours ago, crusian said: Thanks , Finchey . I forgot to ask , and as you mentioned " the loop " , Emmcee has an 1 1/2" loop ( with a SZ.4 ) , what size loop do you have with your SZ.6 , pls. ? . 😃 Must admit I use a 1 1/2" loop when I'm fishing over a bed of scattered boilies. I've used this rig over particles as well but I use a smaller loop, probably about 3/4". But all the time it's with a size 4. Personal choice i guess. Its-grim-up-north 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its-grim-up-north Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 19 hours ago, crusian said: Hi Finchey I see that you are using a SZ.6 rather than a SZ.4 like Emmcee , and I'm wondering if like me you are targeting 20s' rather than 30s' and 40s' ? . As you mentioned Bank Tackle , I asked them if they had any plans to introduce Ready Made Rigs , and they will be in the future , which is just what I wanted to learn as I always seem to find excuses for not making up some rigs . 😃 I’d say fish size isn’t the only thing that comes into play when choosing hook size, the water I fish is very weedy and a size 4 gives me that extra confidence when playing fish through that thick weed... especially because there’s a barbed hook ban also. emmcee, crusian and snowmanstevo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, finchey said: I don't actually measure the size of the loop I make just big enough to fit over the hook, it's just trial and era with me because if I use the rig for a pop up I like it pop up as short as I can get it. I hope this helps you Crusian.🙂👍 2 hours ago, emmcee said: Must admit I use a 1 1/2" loop when I'm fishing over a bed of scattered boilies. I've used this rig over particles as well but I use a smaller loop, probably about 3/4". But all the time it's with a size 4. Personal choice i guess. 1 hour ago, Its-grim-up-north said: I’d say fish size isn’t the only thing that comes into play when choosing hook size, the water I fish is very weedy and a size 4 gives me that extra confidence when playing fish through that thick weed... especially because there’s a barbed hook ban also. Thanks fellas . The reason I ask about loop size is because of the height the pop up will sit at ( which is what I use for most of my fishing ) . I remember a thread which was talking about smaller carp approaching the pop up along the bottom of the lake and so the pop up would be obviously off the bottom ( and possibly make them wary ) , but larger carp because of their bellies would have to approach at an angle from above and therefore the fact that the pop up could be up to 3" off the bottom wouldn't be so blatantly obvious . 😃 finchey and emmcee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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