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Morning Gents . I’m a moderator on a football fans forum and I’ve had exactly this problem . we have set in place a system where all new applicant members have to have their details ratified by a Mod and then have their application activated . The majority of new applications come from Eastern European spammers so their IP addresses give the game away straight away . Those that are not so obvious get sent a related question by email to answer . you’d be surprised how many Romanians think Bobby Charlton used to play for West Ham 🤣. It means I have spend an evening once a month cleaning up the Spammer new account applications but it’s better than spending your whole life deleting and banning , which is what was happening before . Genuine applications usually make themselves heard on the forum pretty much straight away and the obvious spammers can usually be spotted by their ridiculously Eastern European usernames .

17lb. Despite the grimace, it made me smile, and laugh. I'd only just cast the rod in after getting back with Sky after a walk round the lake when it went off, I was sorting out the next rod, mid PVA bag making. Bait was in the water 2minutes, not sure the PVA on the first rod had even dissolved. First fish on the Shrimp!

"Not only is the effect the same, the products you mentioned are more or less hydrolysates" Oh dear, you really need to be right if you do want to try to make a point. If you really want to get in an argument I will wear you down with facts, and be correct with my facts, which sadly yours are not. I can get my data from the original research I did years ago, quite frequently back in the early 2000's when I was working with bait manufacturers. (Some of the references and sources are listed) The oat milk research was when I was working in the catering industry as we had to do full allergen test and have full data sheet to hand. Also standard oat milk will not produce a cappuccino with much 'body', you won't get ⅓coffee, ⅓milk and ⅓froth, you'll get a milky coffee, almost identical to a latte. So far I have shown many of your arguments as incorrect, and instead of 'cherry picking' and missing words out like you. (You were close on Nutramino) You missed a bit: Hydrolysates are simply formed by adding water, adding an enzyme, or acid to create a smaller particle. I do mention adding an enzyme or acid, which you ignored. Yes, commercially produced oat milk is a carbohydrate hydrolysate. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10534225/) During manufacturing, oat flour and water are combined and treated with natural food-grade enzymes (like amylases). This enzymatic hydrolysis process breaks down the oats' dense, gritty starches into smaller, sweeter, and highly soluble simple sugars (like maltose and glucose) This controlled hydrolysis serves three critical purposes: Texture & Creaminess: It prevents the oat starch from turning into a thick, gummy paste and ensures a smooth, milky liquid. Natural Sweetness: It breaks down starches to naturally sweeten the beverage without requiring the addition of processed sugars. Ingredient Labelling: Because the starches are broken down intentionally to sweeten and smooth the drink, labels will often list "hydrolyzed oats" in the ingredients. Multimino is a form of pre-digested liquid food. However, instead of being a traditional animal-protein hydrolysate, it functions as an amino-acid-rich syrup based on Phosphorylcolamine (PPC) and natural extracts. How it works: Because the protein chains are already broken down, this highly water-soluble syrup is considered "pre-digested," making it extremely easy for fish to digest and absorb. Ingredients: It is traditionally a blend of PPC, predigested liver extracts, spleen extract, fruit extracts, and natural sweeteners. Difference from Hydrolysates: While pure hydrolysates (like Salmon Hydrolysate) are the direct breakdown products of whole animal flesh, Multimino is a specialized medical-grade nutrient supplement that provides a similar profile of free-form amino acids. Nutrabaits Nutramino is essentially a human-food-grade pre-digested liquid food. While Nutrabaits sometimes uses the term "pre-digested," the process of breaking down complex proteins (like liver, spleen, and gastric mucosa) into highly absorbable, free-form amino acids is exactly what enzymatic hydrolysis entails. Because it mimics a pre-hydrolyzed or pre-broken-down protein source, it gives carp an irresistible and instantly digestible amino-acid profile. Standard corn steep liquor (CSL) is not naturally classified as a hydrolysate. It is instead the raw, concentrated liquid byproduct of the wet-milling process, generated by soaking corn kernels in water and sulfur dioxide. Liquid Yeast is an interesting one, it is actually the soluble liquid left behind after the hydrolysate has been removed. This is used as a flavor enhancer (like Marmite or Vegemite) or as a nutrient for cell cultures. Active Liquid Yeast: This refers to intact, living yeast cells used in baking or brewing. This is not a hydrolysate.

Shh.... You don't want to jinx it!. 😁

I never had a Cypry Dome myself, Bruce had one which we shared a couple of times in the winter on the Meadow swims at Taverham. I did get the Rod Hutchinson Apotheosis, the one after his first dome, when I fished at Earith, very comfy, even in winter, although it did end up smelling of damp. I'd pack up in damp cold weather and not get the chance to dry it until the next session. I always wished that I had gotten a Yateley and Horseshoe ticket, but money and travel was always restrictive until around 2000 when I got my Hotel and Catering Manager HND. I've moved this back to UK Carp Fishing as although it is 'venue based' and referring to Horseshoe I think is history and worthy of general conversation.

There’s a hell of a lot to be said for staying single Nick 😉

As some of you know I've inherited a koi pond after the purchase of a new home. It's not your average garden pond... in fact it's pushing 7000 gallons. Quite an installation I tell thee. It holds 16 koi to nearly 30lb, and 1 albino grass carp which is also a biggun. I'm considering doing a diary of sorts on here to document my journey keeping koi. I'd talk about the set up, any changes, and more importantly the kippers and their condition and growth. Obviously I know a thing or 2 about carp but I'm a complete newbie to ponds so it could be interesting to share in the fun of it all, as well as the blood, sweat and tears that are bound to manifest!

Mine are now feeding 3 times a day on the pellets. They work as a pack and smash them. It's cool to see. I am now dealing with murky water. Brownish. If I had the cash I'd buy a few more plants, chemical treatments and an aerator, but sadly not atm. There was a layer of silt, built up over 6 years, which didn't seem a problem with the goldfish, but the Koi seem to be churning up, along with Canadian weed that was just coming up. After a bit of searching, im trying 20mm shingle just overlaid. I have a small 5in1 submersible Blagdon pump and with cleaning the filters out every couple of days, I appear to be getting slightly clearer water.

Hello Newmarket . I was sad that West Ham got relegated ( would have been much happier if it had been Chelsea ) , but you'll now have all those " friendly " local derbies against Millwall to look forward to . 😁

Chelsea going down would have been my ideal as well. Sunderland in Europe, that quite a thought, and not being funny, Europa League is a 'better' competition than Champions League. The teams for Champions League are almost nailed in at the start of the season, whereas Europa League can be anyone. Mind you I do wish that we could also go back to European Cup Winners Cup as well, but UEFA and FIFA make too much out of CL. Rugby altogether I love, although it has gotten a bit silly on head to head and targeting, especially in the mens game, and that's players who are going in too high and not wrapping up rather than referee being picky. The Red Roses have definitely brought the game to life for everyone. Women's games sold out, and in some big stadiums. Mind you, I do miss Abby Dow, not as spectacular as Ellie Kildunne, but could she motor.

Well it seems to be working, the steady flow of spammers seems to have dried up for now

I set the membership to include a non bot verification. Unfortunately I don't necessarily see new members joining if they go in bulk. I've added loads of Eastern European email and IP addresses and suppliers to the ban filter, but Asian and Indian are as bad. The joy of VPN's is a problem as well, and I think that settings currently restrict access from them.

Never tried that, so long ago I can't remember if the underside of top skin was actually reflective or not 😀 Do have a couple of pics from way back with the Hutchie dome covered in snow tho! Last week of the then close season, bright sun in morning then woke up to snow! Deff wouldn't like to be bivvied up in this weather atm tho! 🥵

Did you reverse the top skin in bright sunny weather and did it actually keep it cooler?

Never got to fish horseshoe and wont now, but i was sort of on track to fish yately, this would of been around the time Terry and the yately crew were just getting started on the complex, but had a massive fall out with local club (portsmouth and district) that made me fall out with angling and coincided with getting a 1st car and err.........realising the fun that could be had with the opposite sex

I got my Hutchie dome from Penge Angling, had to be the alloy pole version of course! Did try to argue a 'cash' price, they were having none of it though 😂

After moving from a brolly I purchased a Shakespeare cypry dome (oooh ark at me dead cool….🤣🤣🤣😵‍💫) Penge angling post dated cheque spread lol

I’m sure this must be a new thing as I’ve never come across it before but why is Sweet Corn verboten ?

I think I’ve kinda grown DOWN over the years 🤣

And here you have raised very pertinent additional points. Any ingredient in a boilie is denatured, or liquids evaporate as they are boiled, less so if they are steamed. By denature, the food value is reduced, the protein level is lowered, and enzymes 'killed', even vitamins and minerals are reduced, especially those on the outside skin of the boilie. The inside of the bait may still not be 'cooked' on short boiling times*, as the full temperature takes time to get to the middle. So the only part of the boilie that still contains fully effective or as you nicely describe it, beneficial effects is the middle. The best way to get these liquids to continue working effectively is to soak or glug the baits after boiling. You can add these liquids to your spod mix, your particles, your powdered groundbait, your pellets. I don't know if anyone remembers the days of the CarpWorld/Nutrabaits Lac Fishabil trips, but Bill Cottams favourite mix I think was a bucket of birdfood, boilies crushed and whole with added Nutramino, Multimino PPc and condensed milk. This is where you have different effects in water, the solubility of the liquid, how it mixes in the lake. Some liquids will spread out across the lakebed, others will cloud lakebed to surface. The 'hope' is that the carp will follow the reverse track of the water current if any down to the source, and it creates a spot to investigate. *My aim when making my own bait was to have a solid skin, but a paste middle.

Leaving aside the obvious faffing around making this stuff. It might be me not understanding, but what would you actually use these liquids in? If added to a boilie base mix, wouldn't the boiling process actually kill any 'benefical effects? I get adding to a groundbait might work, as for a spod mix, wouldn't any effect just vanish in the volume of water in any lakes..... guessing a lot of this 'science' might have been tank tested?

That was summer 89 I think; no bans for anything then, you had to buy a ticket at the post office in Lechlade to fish, £7.50 a day or £25 a week seems to come to mind.. That 200lb cat actually was from Cassien not the Ebro I remembered after posting above; one of the fist massive cats caught by an English angler at the time. Nowadays it has obviously changed a lot, like everywhere has, it is still a nice place to hand out fore a few days when not too busy..

That's the problem these days; and partly why I no longer have any fast bikes, certainly in the SE of the country anyway, way too many cameras etc, you just can't enjoy riding freely much without doing track days..

And my old GS1000HC this was my last bike, had 1100 big bore kit yoshi cams harris 4 into 1 full race pipe

That was the swim that many years ago I think it was Mike Winstone and another bloke won one of the first 'Carp matches' held there, using PVA mesh bags of pellets? I actually thought Tiger nuts were banned at the time on HorseShoe but might be wrong? Anyway, I used to concentrate my efforts on Winter bay, winter point and disabled swim and the middle road bank swims were good. Not sure what the place is like now, and sounds so anti what it was set up to be, obviously cannot turn the clock back but early days were actually a very special time imo Best times were before the flying rats arrived and those carp could be caught so easy on mixers very early morning when the big group of carp moved into winter bay

You are missing the point, it does not need hydrolysates to have a 'controlled breakdown', to enable protein to be more easily digested, or solubility and leakage. Absolutely everything you have put down about free amino acids and peptides does not require hydrolysates. That was accomplished for years with Multimino, Nutramino, Minamino and various other brand names, Corn Steep Liquor and Liquid Yeast or other ingredients. Soaking and glugging baits after boiling in them did exactly the same thing. They could also be mixed in with the base mix. The effects are the same. Hydrolysates are simply formed by adding water, adding an enzyme, or acid to create a smaller particle. A basic hydrolysate is oat milk!

Exactly..... I'm a hero really 😁

Another afternoon on my local park lake and 8 fish up to 18-4 chalked up. It's not the most difficult lake in the world but it's nice to have a confidence boost to compensate for a run of blanks on other waters. I was sending the boat out to the far bank tree line with a combination of boilies, pellets and crumb and topping up every hour and the fish certainly responded to the bait. I did chuck a little bit of crumb in the margins to see how it descended through the water column as I was worried it might be spreading out too far. A few hours later I saw a fish over the bait and it dropped down on it with it's tail waggling clear of the water as it mopped it up. Needless to say, my confidence on adding it to my baiting up has gone through the roof!

Quick night on the local day ticket on Friday. Managed to get on them easily enough but a bit disappointed to just catch the one. I put a bucket of bait out about 30 yards in front of me and got continuous liners on it from about 9pm until 3am. Bizarrely, the only rod to go was the one chucked under the bush in the near margin. I can only assume my hinges were not the one..... should have put bottom baits out. Still, better than a blank and a very pretty little patchy common. I'll not get out again until the end of June which is a killer.

Welcome to Carp.com, although I struggle with doing grown up

Wrong forum lol

On Saturday we got the koi out one by one to measure them (koi size tends to be expressed in length (cm) rather than weight which I struggle to get me head around!). We have 4 over 70cm, biggest 75, 5 x 60s, 5 x 50s, 4 x 40s and a couple at 39 cm. Weight wise, 31 and 30 lb are the biggest. It was actually a bit of a stressful operation. When you net the white ones you can see them going pink as the blood vessels expand with stress. This just makes you want to get them back as quick as possible. Obviously you don't see that when you catch a normal carp as their colour hides the pinkness. The koi are in a right mood after the ordeal. They're feeding but nowhere near as well as they were. I even bought them a load of dried shrimp/silkworm as a treat and even that stuff's not getting them excited. I suspect it'll take a few days for them to get over it properly.

My Scrambler will be my last bike... I'm 66 in a few weeks so I'll have this one a while till my back says "beggar off, yer done sunshine"...🤣

Here's my old girl cbr600fn 1992, I've had her 11 years now and I wouldn't dream of parting with her.

Me new Scrambler... A hoot...😉

Me bobber... (Shudders...🥴)

My old Thunderbird sport...

I would have preferred to see Spurs go down but WHU will have to do😅 To see my beloved Sunderland go to Europe for the first time in my life (and I'm 47 years old tomorrow!) is absolutely mind-blowing. Still can't quite believe it.

no i bought it as is, no longer have it as due to divorce some time ago i ended up having to sell it on