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Bobbins are essentially an extra visual indicator to see if your line is moving. The main reason for them is to highlight drop backs (the line slackening) which could indicate a fish picking up your bait and moving towards you, that said if you fish them a little slack you can see subtle forward movement (the fish moving away) as it lifts up. They also highlight fishing moving through your swim as they pick up your line with their fins, this while frustrating can be a great tool for locating fish particularly in winter when they don't give you any other signs. They will certainly help you more than be a pain anyway, so just get some and have a go, Good luck.

Bit extreme could have just booked a weeks holiday lol good luck

That's what I could have said to you regarding the bait question, but that's kind of not the point of the forum, we bounce ideas about and share, I have my own ideas about liquids and know which ones have been good in the past, however at the moment BAF have pretty much tried to stop supplying the average Joe fishermen, so it can be an expensive game buying duff liquids. So I'll ask a slightly different question who do you consider a reputable hydro/liquid manufacturer now BAF only want to do trade sales?

needless to say nothing was caught last night

https://www.anglingtimes.co.uk/advice/tips/how-to-keep-warm-in-a-bivvy-safely/ This has not long gone up, possibly after the latest tragedy. Lots of really good advice.

That should give you a starter.

Bait companies have to roll baits that are economically viable, so few can go to the 'edge' of preparing ingredients by fermentation, and often have to use ingredients that are off the shelf. Also bait rolling companies need to make baits that will go through the machine, whereas at home I may have to roll by hand. Not many anglers are willing to pay for a bait that works out at £10 a kilo to produce. An example of being different from others was when I was rolling my own Trigga. The standard Trigga worked and was quite simply Trigga base mix, Liquid Trigga and eggs, but by adding extra Betaine, Liver Elite and Sweet Cajouser it outfished the basic mix, either as a shop bought frozen or angler rolled Trigga. I can roll a basic nut mix bait, tiger nut flour, peanut meal, semolina, (for example) and it will work, but by adding garlic oil and liver powder creating a meaty nut mix improve the base.

I buy smaller amounts from aa too, they're the real deal.

Thanks I've used AA Baits a couple of times, not for hydros though so good to know thanks.

Had to get out there mate as it started running me into the ground, money was good but it was basically go to work, come home, eat and go to bed, I struggled to find time to do anything and when I did, I couldn't be bothered as I was too tired lol.

I get all my stuff from aabaits.co.uk, used a few of the liquids from there and have done well 👍 ones I've used so far are the shrimp hydro, krill hydro and the ocean+ mate 👍

Thanks bud I will have a look what they using 👍 I find I get a good buzz from catching on something I've put together myself 🤣

I live in the US and have become “a bit” addicted to UK-Style carp fishing over the past 2 years. In my ongoing quest to increase my angling acumen, I’m considering purchasing a set of bobbins. Unfortunately, growing up as a US angler, I have absolutely zero experience using them (never even heard the term before 2 years ago😵‍💫). That said, I’m hoping to get some sage advise on how best to use them (from setting them up, to adjusting them to suit your personal style/venue). *And lastly, are bobbins even necessary? (I ask this only because all the carp I’ve landed to date have been caught without bobbins! *Regarding that last question: please keep in mind, I’m still relatively new to this style of angling🙃 Happy New Year and thanks in advance - Joe

worth getting some decent bobbins and then sticking with them

This is one my daughter caught within 5 minutes of chucking out Cmc pop up with a handful of RNM around it.

Totally get what your saying there with you can be different by rolling your own. Though you can still use fishmeal, nut bait etc and still be different. The bait my mate designed used a few of the ingredients used in other nut baits but the process in making the bait would 100% not have been used by bait manufacturers due to the aggro of preparing it the way he did and the time it took to prepare properly and that was his edge. The lucky few who got to roll his bait absolutely rinsed lakes with it, some of which were hard lakes , though that bait at times made them look easy.

If you wanted a nut base mix to have a tinker with the Reaper Nut Mix might be a good starting point for you. I've been using the boilies for a couple of years and the fish do seem to like them. https://innovatebaits.co.uk/products/?category=base_mixes

Well I've just quit my job, got a meeting tomorrow morning then off fishing for a week. Don't have much bait, don't really care if I catch or not I just need to unwind 🤣