elmoputney Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Just thought the old school peeps might like their own vintage tackle section.Ā crusian and yonny 2 Quote
crusian Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 On 27/01/2025 at 12:47, elmoputney said: Just thought the old school peeps might like their own vintage tackle section.Ā Do you mean us Pensioners , young man ?Ā š jules007 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, crusian said: Do you mean us Pensioners , young man ?Ā š No I mean these guys š crusian and jules007 1 1 Quote
bluelabel Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Well... considering that Richard Walker's 44lber from Redmire kicked off the carping craze in the UK, I think its only fair we take note of the fact that he landed a 44lb Common on a 10 foot cane rod of approx 1.5lbs Test Curve... and not a spod rodĀ Us vintage lads have seen everything in the carp world more or less, and we're still pulling 20's out on our bits o' cane...šššš Ā That said, Walker was an innovator and I'm sure he would have embraced the modern methods had he been alive today crusian, jh92, jules007 and 1 other 4 Quote
elmoputney Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 7 hours ago, bluelabel said: Well... considering that Richard Walker's 44lber from Redmire kicked off the carping craze in the UK, I think its only fair we take note of the fact that he landed a 44lb Common on a 10 foot cane rod of approx 1.5lbs Test Curve... and not a spod rodĀ Us vintage lads have seen everything in the carp world more or less, and we're still pulling 20's out on our bits o' cane...šššš Ā That said, Walker was an innovator and I'm sure he would have embraced the modern methods had he been alive today Exactly why a vintage section would be a good addition to the forum, it would be a good way of documenting some of the history. It seems a shame for all the vintage stuff to get lost amongst the other posts.Ā B B 1 Quote
bluelabel Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) D'ya know... when I started fishing with vintage gear, I was still using modern methods... hair rigs, lead clips boilies etc etc... but one thing I've found is that fish wise up to all this frippery... and one afternoon, I took a rod net mat and a pot of prawns... nowt else, and I caught... all I had on the line was a prawn, no lead, no putty, no swivels just a hook and a bait... Our club lake has been carp fished for decades and they've seen every rig under the sun and everyone does the same... two rods one long one short, 30 baits around each lead clipped 5" rig, hair rigged size six with a 16mm boilie... Nowadays there are different options of leads, hooklinks, self hooking rigs...Ā but so many folks use those options they're not different any more... so just a baited hook has been scoring, as the fish haven't come across such a basic rig... occasionally I use a bit of plasticine around a float stop for a bit of casting weight which can slide off the line in the event of a break, but in the main, its just a hook... pressured fish see every sort of rig nowadays... maybe try summat totally different... Ā Ā Could itĀ be that carping has come full circle...??? Edited January 30 by bluelabel crusian, jules007 and elmoputney 3 Quote
crusian Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 2 hours ago, bluelabel said: D'ya know... when I started fishing with vintage gear, I was still using modern methods... hair rigs, lead clips boilies etc etc... but one thing I've found is that fish wise up to all this frippery... and one afternoon, I took a rod net mat and a pot of prawns... nowt else, and I caught... all I had on the line was a prawn, no lead, no putty, no swivels just a hook and a bait... Our club lake has been carp fished for decades and they've seen every rig under the sun and everyone does the same... two rods one long one short, 30 baits around each lead clipped 5" rig, hair rigged size six with a 16mm boilie... Nowadays there are different options of leads, hooklinks, self hooking rigs...Ā but so many folks use those options they're not different any more... so just a baited hook has been scoring, as the fish haven't come across such a basic rig... occasionally I use a bit of plasticine around a float stop for a bit of casting weight which can slide off the line in the event of a break, but in the main, its just a hook... pressured fish see every sort of rig nowadays... maybe try summat totally different... Ā Ā Could itĀ be that carping has come full circle...??? Thought provoking post , Blue . So do you buy ready peeled Prawns , or whole Prawns , and how would I hook them please ? . jules007 1 Quote
bluelabel Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) I use the ready peeled from sainsburys, not the little'uns, the bigguns cooked or uncooked, chop a couple up to scatter in, no more's a couple. I use them whole hooked through the thickest part. Make sure the point of the hook is showing as a meaty prawn is tough to strike through... this is not a self hooking rig Edited January 30 by bluelabel crusian and jules007 2 Quote
crusian Posted Thursday at 22:30 Report Posted Thursday at 22:30 7 hours ago, bluelabel said: I use the ready peeled from sainsburys, not the little'uns, the bigguns cooked or uncooked, chop a couple up to scatter in, no more's a couple. I use them whole hooked through the thickest part. Make sure the point of the hook is showing as a meaty prawn is tough to strike through... this is not a self hooking rig That's greatĀ thanks , Blue . So I can see me margin fishing a Prawn on my 9' 11/2 t/cĀ fibreglass rod with 15lb line ? , and a Sz.6 hook ? . š jules007 and bluelabel 2 Quote
bluelabel Posted Friday at 09:26 Report Posted Friday at 09:26 15lb line...? You after sharks...???šš¤£ I use 8lb or sometimes 10lb if there are lumps about...šš¤£ jules007 1 Quote
bluelabel Posted Friday at 10:44 Report Posted Friday at 10:44 12 hours ago, crusian said: That's greatĀ thanks , Blue . So I can see me margin fishing a Prawn on my 9' 11/2 t/cĀ fibreglass rod with 15lb line ? , and a Sz.6 hook ? . š If you want to up the attraction you could chuck in a few 8mm pellets with the chopped prawns, sit well back with the rod tip away, or parallel to the bank jules007 and crusian 2 Quote
elmoputney Posted Friday at 11:19 Author Report Posted Friday at 11:19 On 30/01/2025 at 10:42, bluelabel said: D'ya know... when I started fishing with vintage gear, I was still using modern methods... hair rigs, lead clips boilies etc etc... but one thing I've found is that fish wise up to all this frippery... and one afternoon, I took a rod net mat and a pot of prawns... nowt else, and I caught... all I had on the line was a prawn, no lead, no putty, no swivels just a hook and a bait... Our club lake has been carp fished for decades and they've seen every rig under the sun and everyone does the same... two rods one long one short, 30 baits around each lead clipped 5" rig, hair rigged size six with a 16mm boilie... Nowadays there are different options of leads, hooklinks, self hooking rigs...Ā but so many folks use those options they're not different any more... so just a baited hook has been scoring, as the fish haven't come across such a basic rig... occasionally I use a bit of plasticine around a float stop for a bit of casting weight which can slide off the line in the event of a break, but in the main, its just a hook... pressured fish see every sort of rig nowadays... maybe try summat totally different... Ā Ā Could itĀ be that carping has come full circle...??? I've been thinking about this, while I don't disagree that doing something different is good and I have used alternative baits, I've got to play devil's advocate on some points. How can you say a hair rigged prawn wouldn't have caught in the same situation?Ā Also people still catch a lot of fish using frippery I don't think you can say that the hair rig has blown, and there are many other rigs people use in certain situations, might be a variation on a theme but people use what they have confidence in.it might not be your thought process but it is still valid,and not everybody does exactly the same thing.Ā And this isnt a dig as i can see that there is some merit in freelining, it's something I used to use many years ago and quite successfully,but it isn't a solution that covers the whole of carp fishing,it is limited mainly to a close in stalking scenario.Ā Stalking 101 regardless of set up = finding the fish, set a trap,keep quiet and hopefully catch them.Ā jules007 1 Quote
framey Posted Friday at 16:24 Report Posted Friday at 16:24 Iāve had more carp fishing ālaying onā or with fishing the ālift methodā with a cube of meat than I have any other method or any other bait. Ā crusian and bluelabel 2 Quote
bluelabel Posted Friday at 16:34 Report Posted Friday at 16:34 1, you can hair rig or not, it works either way... its just a different approach š¤·āāļø 2, never said the hair rig has blown, just offering an alternative, doesn't have to be a prawn either... Cockle, Mussell, Meat, anything 3, just said do summat different... do what you want...š¤·āāļø 4, all the "Frippery" is pretty much variations on a common theme... there's been very little meaningful innovation since the invention of the hair rig 5, never said its an all in one solution, you can try different things and find what works for yourself Ā All I'm saying is that a lot of fish and venues see the same thing day in, day out, a different approach often pays dividends and the old methods are working because fish don't see them that often and trip up... Ā The thing that I see a lot is folks sticking to doing the same thing day in day out and moaning that the fish are off the feed, the water's moody, or there's a Y in the day My message is.... if summat ain't working change summat...Ā do summat outta the ordinary... who knows... if it doesn't work try summat else... š¤·āāļøšš crusian and jules007 2 Quote
jules007 Posted Friday at 19:16 Report Posted Friday at 19:16 I am a big believer in doing things different i will prep chick peas but soak them in marmite water to boost them i have caught on pickled onions, sweets and various meats, im a big big fan of Pepperami proper forgotten old bait, but never used prawns, need to give them a try, another half lost bait is a huge chunk of bread flake fished under a float, can be a simple killer trickĀ crusian and bluelabel 2 Quote
bluelabel Posted Friday at 19:45 Report Posted Friday at 19:45 Zackley...Ā I once made a paste out of one of my Haslet sarnies ... (boiled pigs head) I had a12lber on that jules007 1 Quote
crusian Posted Friday at 21:41 Report Posted Friday at 21:41 12 hours ago, bluelabel said: 15lb line...? You after sharks...???šš¤£ I use 8lb or sometimes 10lb if there are lumps about...šš¤£ You mean they don't stock sharks in your lake , Blue ?Ā šĀ . So use myĀ through action 1 1/2 t/c rod , and 10 lb Hydrotuff to absorb theĀ power ofĀ all these monster carp with a passion for prawns that I'm gong to catch , Blue ? . š Quote
bluelabel Posted Saturday at 04:04 Report Posted Saturday at 04:04 I5lb line is too high for a 1.5lb rod... be okay for a 3lb rod, but not a 1.5lber...Ā I landed a 22lb 10oz Mirror on 8lb line, on a cane rod. Dunno how big your sharks go... but ours are BIG .....š¤£šš£ Ā jules007 and jh92 2 Quote
bluelabel Posted Saturday at 09:27 Report Posted Saturday at 09:27 I really need to get my eyes retested Every time I open this page I see it asĀ "New section for village people"Ā š³š³š³š³ jules007, jh92 and crusian 3 Quote
Golden Paws Posted Sunday at 10:30 Report Posted Sunday at 10:30 Too excruciating for words!Ā crusian 1 Quote
newmarket Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago On 28/01/2025 at 19:19, crusian said: Do you mean us Pensioners , young man ?Ā š Did somebody mention Pensioners ? š jules007 1 Quote
crusian Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, newmarket said: Did somebody mention Pensioners ? š Good grief , if it isn't that rusty , old , Iron . How are you , Newmarket ? . š jules007 1 Quote
crusian Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago On 01/02/2025 at 04:04, bluelabel said: I5lb line is too high for a 1.5lb rod... be okay for a 3lb rod, but not a 1.5lber...Ā I landed a 22lb 10oz Mirror on 8lb line, on a cane rod. Dunno how big your sharks go... but ours are BIG .....š¤£šš£ Ā I think I remember Chris Ball writing in the little book he wrote with Brian Skoyles that he used 6lb ( ? ) Maxima paired with a 9ft. Seeker rod to catch carp up to 30lbs . I might pull on my big boy pants , and use 10lb Hydrotuff , because I stress about snags , and I don't know if I have the cojones to go down to 8lb .š±Ā Just a case of balanced tackle I guess ? . š jules007 1 Quote
newmarket Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, crusian said: Good grief , if it isn't that rusty , old , Iron . How are you , Newmarket ? . š Still around mate , just thought Iād pop in and say hello šĀ jules007 1 Quote
jules007 Posted 34 minutes ago Report Posted 34 minutes ago 8 hours ago, newmarket said: Still around mate , just thought Iād pop in and say hello šĀ Good to see ya still about mate Quote
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