jh92 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just a quick question really, always used hot water from the kettle to soak my particles before boiling. I was reading something online about using mineral water instead of tap water. Any thoughts on this? All my particles have now arrived and it's time to start preparing them, wondering if I should try mineral water instead 🤔 probably over thinking things again 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, jh92 said: Just a quick question really, always used hot water from the kettle to soak my particles before boiling. I was reading something online about using mineral water instead of tap water. Any thoughts on this? All my particles have now arrived and it's time to start preparing them, wondering if I should try mineral water instead 🤔 probably over thinking things again 🤣 Never heard of that or used mineral water when I used to do my particles. Maybe do a batch with and a batch without and compare catch results. jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell3 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 If you must, it is cheap enough. Tap water is fine though some use mineral water due to it not having a bleach smell, if you leave the water in a open container all the gases will come off and the bleach smell. At a rush 1 drop of lemon juice will do the same instantly in around 5l of tap water. jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 I always soak mine in cold water straight from the tap, that seems overkill to me putting it in perrier, by the time it's boiled and all the other stinky winky is added it's been sterilised anyway. jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 hours ago, emmcee said: Never heard of that or used mineral water when I used to do my particles. Maybe do a batch with and a batch without and compare catch results. I read it the other day, trying to find it again but no luck lol. Something to do with the water being pure without chemicals etc 🤔 3 hours ago, Carpbell3 said: If you must, it is cheap enough. Tap water is fine though some use mineral water due to it not having a bleach smell, if you leave the water in a open container all the gases will come off and the bleach smell. At a rush 1 drop of lemon juice will do the same instantly in around 5l of tap water. Never really noticed it myself, thanks for the advice if I do decide to do it I will try letting it sit before boiling but to be honest it all seems like a lot of faff. Probably will just use water straight from the kettle 🤣 4 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I always soak mine in cold water straight from the tap, that seems overkill to me putting it in perrier, by the time it's boiled and all the other stinky winky is added it's been sterilised anyway. Good point mate, I've always boiled it first then added it, only because my thinking is adding it in hot will help the particle absorb it better 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 To prevent contamination with germs, water companies add a disinfectant—usually either chlorine or chloramine—that kills disease-causing germs such as Salmonella, Campylobacter, and norovirus. Quote from Google. I've got a bit paranoid about tainting bait and if I'm soaking particles, I'll boil the water in a saucepan for a few minutes, let it stand for about 15 minutes and then add it warm to the seeds. That should boil off any chlorine and it also speeds up the softening process. jh92 and elmoputney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Golden Paws said: To prevent contamination with germs, water companies add a disinfectant—usually either chlorine or chloramine—that kills disease-causing germs such as Salmonella, Campylobacter, and norovirus. Quote from Google. I've got a bit paranoid about tainting bait and if I'm soaking particles, I'll boil the water in a saucepan for a few minutes, let it stand for about 15 minutes and then add it warm to the seeds. That should boil off any chlorine and it also speeds up the softening process. Got me paranoid now as well, was about to put my bait soaking but gonna buy some bottled water tomorrow and use that instead 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, jh92 said: Got me paranoid now as well, was about to put my bait soaking but gonna buy some bottled water tomorrow and use that instead 🤣 I wouldn't worry mate you will need your own Peckham spring the amount you are planning to make. jh92 and B B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I wouldn't worry mate you will need your own Peckham spring the amount you are planning to make. It's going to be a busy week for me mate, I've got 5 x 10l buckets, to soak the first batch in for 48 hours, 1 hemp, 2 tigers and 2 maize. Going to grind away and try and cook the lot in one afternoon, then bag/freeze. Fill the buckets up again and repeat the process. I reckon 2 goes should use most of it up 🤔 going to try and find another pot as well, got an old pressure cooker floating around somewhere lol elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 8 hours ago, jh92 said: Just a quick question really, always used hot water from the kettle to soak my particles before boiling. I was reading something online about using mineral water instead of tap water. Any thoughts on this? All my particles have now arrived and it's time to start preparing them, wondering if I should try mineral water instead 🤔 probably over thinking things again 🤣 From tap to kettle, boil and pour on particles. Or from pasta into bucket and freeze. Defrost and pour on particles to soak them. jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 9 hours ago, jh92 said: Just a quick question really, always used hot water from the kettle to soak my particles before boiling. I was reading something online about using mineral water instead of tap water. Any thoughts on this? All my particles have now arrived and it's time to start preparing them, wondering if I should try mineral water instead 🤔 probably over thinking things again 🤣 Sod using water you pay for… use water butt water if you don't want to use good old tap water.. jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 Getting there 🤣 elmoputney and B B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 4 hours ago, elmoputney said: I wouldn't worry mate you will need your own Peckham spring the amount you are planning to make. I suppose it’s a bit late to dig a well 🤔 crusian, kevtaylor, elmoputney and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Terry Hearn uses tap water to make his GLM bait splash, made a point of saying as such, good enough for us.... I use tap water to wash my baits out and prepare particles, wouldn't even worry about such a thing tbh certainly wouldn't pay for bottled water unless I'm having it. Edited September 4, 2023 by kevtaylor jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 Ccmoore recommending bottled water lol 37 minutes ago, kevtaylor said: Terry Hearn uses tap water to make his GLM bait splash, made a point of saying as such, good enough for us.... I use tap water to wash my baits out and prepare particles, wouldn't even worry about such a thing tbh certainly wouldn't pay for bottled water unless I'm having it. Yeah mate I guess with it being a new water I was just over thinking things, I've used tap water loads of time and caught lol kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, jh92 said: Ccmoore recommending bottled water lol Yeah mate I guess with it being a new water I was just over thinking things, I've used tap water loads of time and caught lol Its too easy to over think everything, we all do it. If tap water Is good enough for Mr Hearn - it's good enough. I've used rain water and pond water and I thought the bait went off quicker, might have imagined it though, I've used tap water since 👍 elmoputney and jh92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 04/09/2023 at 18:26, kevtaylor said: Its too easy to over think everything, we all do it. If tap water Is good enough for Mr Hearn - it's good enough. I've used rain water and pond water and I thought the bait went off quicker, might have imagined it though, I've used tap water since 👍 Gone for boiled tap water mate. Put my hemp seed soaking for 48 hours. Poured it into a pot to boil it... Water is brown? Never had this happen before, I'm going to assume its soil or something 🤔 is it bad? kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, jh92 said: Gone for boiled tap water mate. Put my hemp seed soaking for 48 hours. Poured it into a pot to boil it... Water is brown? Never had this happen before, I'm going to assume its soil or something 🤔 is it bad? Does it smell and look OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, elmoputney said: Does it smell and look OK? Yeah smells fine, boiled up and the seeds have split and released oil. I'm gonna be draining the liquid off and freezing it once its cooled down. Hopefully it will be alright 🤔next batch I'm gonna rinse the seeds off to start with, pretty sure it was mud/soil? elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jh92 said: Yeah smells fine, boiled up and the seeds have split and released oil. I'm gonna be draining the liquid off and freezing it once its cooled down. Hopefully it will be alright 🤔next batch I'm gonna rinse the seeds off to start with, pretty sure it was mud/soil? I'm sure it will be fine, Just remember you will be throwing it into a silty muddy lake it will soon be tainted with fish poo and dead leaves and stuff Edited September 5, 2023 by elmoputney kevtaylor and jh92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I'm sure it will be fine, Just remember you will be throwing it into a silty muddy lake it will soon be tainted with fish poo and dead leaves and stuff Yeah good point mate, next time I will just rinse them off before hand lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 9 hours ago, jh92 said: I'm gonna be draining the liquid off and freezing it once its cooled down. Top tip! A few years ago my spod bucket got top heavy with the water after I'd used half of it so I tipped the excess into the lake. After 5 minutes I had several aggressive carp charging around the margins. I prefer using a spod to a spomb so use the liquid to make up my groundbait mix that plugs the spod. kevtaylor, salokcinnodrog and jh92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 That's what half a 10l bucket turned into, got loads more to prepare yet 🤣 elmoputney, salokcinnodrog and Golden Paws 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Golden Paws said: Top tip! A few years ago my spod bucket got top heavy with the water after I'd used half of it so I tipped the excess into the lake. After 5 minutes I had several aggressive carp charging around the margins. I prefer using a spod to a spomb so use the liquid to make up my groundbait mix that plugs the spod. I often 'save' that liquid for my Vitalin or Molassed Rabbit mix; putting the particles in first then baiting over the top with the groundbait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Golden Paws said: Top tip! A few years ago my spod bucket got top heavy with the water after I'd used half of it so I tipped the excess into the lake. After 5 minutes I had several aggressive carp charging around the margins. I prefer using a spod to a spomb so use the liquid to make up my groundbait mix that plugs the spod. Saved it and put it in the freezer 😆 kevtaylor and salokcinnodrog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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