LACarper Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I don't know weather its because i cant handle the cold or weather its because i haven't got a good quality sleeping bag. ive got 2 sleeping bags one i bought second hand some years ago all i know is that its made by trakker. The second is a jrc 5 season. neither of them keep me warm when it gets cold, i have to have 2 hot water bottles. why are they not keeping me warm if they are supposed to be 5 season? could anyone recommend me a decent bag that will keep me really warm in winter?? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james666 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Im quite surprised that the jrc or the tracker bags dont keep you warm especially if they are 5 season but bags will lose there thermal proprieties over time so if they are both quite old then that could be why. For a new sleeping bag, you have two options. First is to buy a bag made by a tackle company, probably the most comfortable since they will normally have straps on them to attach them to the bedchair so you dont have to struggle to get out when you have a bite. I personally use a the Total fishing gear 5 season bag and has done me well in very cold temps as i use it for camping as well. They also do a beefed up version which is even warmer. the second option is to buy a sleeping bag from a dedicated camping company which will just be a normal sleeping bag but you will find they have been designed with very cold temps in mind. Plus you could look into getting a bedchair cover which will help keep you warm in the colder months. other things you can do to keep warm is have a clean set of clothes to change into when your getting ready to get in the bag. These will be dry so will keep you much warmer, since sweat will stay on your clothes and get cold which will make you cold. Put your unneeded tackle bags under your bedchair and this will help keep the cold air from the floor coming onto your bed. and take a blanket, This will give you a extra layer of warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 i use the snugpak range of sleeping bags as do a few of my mates. for winter i use the antartica sleeping bag which is rated down to minus 50 . you will not be cold in that one . one of my mates has got whats called the special forces combo which is two bags combined to make a winter bag. take them apart and you have a spring/autumn bag and a summer bag. he never gets cold either. but also enough of my mates also use the mainstream tackle companies bags with no complaints. youve got plenty of choice. one thing that i was told was that to always fluff your bag up before getting in it. this helps it trap air between the fibres in your bag which stops the bag getting cold. and for someone like me who keeps the sleeping bag inside my bedchair its made a massive difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnplumb Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 what do you wear when you get into your bag at night ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Esmine, if you don't already have one get a fleece lined overblanket. I use a Trakker Peachskin which has straps and buckles to attach it to the side frame of the bedchair so it stays put. It's the business! Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LACarper Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Im quite surprised that the jrc or the tracker bags dont keep you warm especially if they are 5 season but bags will lose there thermal proprieties over time so if they are both quite old then that could be why. For a new sleeping bag, you have two options. First is to buy a bag made by a tackle company, probably the most comfortable since they will normally have straps on them to attach them to the bedchair so you dont have to struggle to get out when you have a bite. I personally use a the Total fishing gear 5 season bag and has done me well in very cold temps as i use it for camping as well. They also do a beefed up version which is even warmer. the second option is to buy a sleeping bag from a dedicated camping company which will just be a normal sleeping bag but you will find they have been designed with very cold temps in mind. Plus you could look into getting a bedchair cover which will help keep you warm in the colder months. other things you can do to keep warm is have a clean set of clothes to change into when your getting ready to get in the bag. These will be dry so will keep you much warmer, since sweat will stay on your clothes and get cold which will make you cold. Put your unneeded tackle bags under your bedchair and this will help keep the cold air from the floor coming onto your bed. and take a blanket, This will give you a extra layer of warmth. the trakker i bought about 6 years ago and it was already very worn back then. but the jrc i bought brand new and it says 5 season but still isnt warm enough in cold temps. i just dont understand it!!!! im really worried to buy another in case its not good enough and then i would have wasted money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 You might be like me, and just have to accept that you will never be warm no matter what. Sleeping bags retain your body heat, with warmer ones being more efficient, if you are cold blooded like me, you will be cold even if you are wrapped up in the most efficient sleeping bag in the middle of summer. Buy a decent hat, put a newspaper under your sleeping bag, and prepare for anther miserable night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 get a padded bed, preferably a memory foam one, it will make a MASSIVE difference on cold nights. i have a vision memory foam bed, £110 which you will pay more than that for a really good bag. mega comfy and fantastic on cold nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalthegooner Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I've got the Angling Intelligence 3 in 1 Sleep System and find it to be warm whatever the weather. If you feel the cold, try wearing a base layer to bed as well. And a woolly hat / balaclava will help a lot as the head is where most of your body heat will escape from when you are in a sleeping bag (They had these in Aldi last week. They were £4.99 each if I remember correctly). You can also add a pair of Heat Holders socks to complete the ensemble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james666 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Im quite surprised that the jrc or the tracker bags dont keep you warm especially if they are 5 season but bags will lose there thermal proprieties over time so if they are both quite old then that could be why. For a new sleeping bag, you have two options. First is to buy a bag made by a tackle company, probably the most comfortable since they will normally have straps on them to attach them to the bedchair so you dont have to struggle to get out when you have a bite. I personally use a the Total fishing gear 5 season bag and has done me well in very cold temps as i use it for camping as well. They also do a beefed up version which is even warmer. the second option is to buy a sleeping bag from a dedicated camping company which will just be a normal sleeping bag but you will find they have been designed with very cold temps in mind. Plus you could look into getting a bedchair cover which will help keep you warm in the colder months. other things you can do to keep warm is have a clean set of clothes to change into when your getting ready to get in the bag. These will be dry so will keep you much warmer, since sweat will stay on your clothes and get cold which will make you cold. Put your unneeded tackle bags under your bedchair and this will help keep the cold air from the floor coming onto your bed. and take a blanket, This will give you a extra layer of warmth. the trakker i bought about 6 years ago and it was already very worn back then. but the jrc i bought brand new and it says 5 season but still isnt warm enough in cold temps. i just dont understand it!!!! im really worried to buy another in case its not good enough and then i would have wasted money. You may have bad blood circulation like me so even when your all warped up in a bag you will still feel the cold. invest in a bedchair cover as that will give you a extra layer of warmth and also make up a flask of hot tea/coffee/soup and when your feeling really cold have a cup of it, will help alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Im quite surprised that the jrc or the tracker bags dont keep you warm especially if they are 5 season but bags will lose there thermal proprieties over time so if they are both quite old then that could be why. For a new sleeping bag, you have two options. First is to buy a bag made by a tackle company, probably the most comfortable since they will normally have straps on them to attach them to the bedchair so you dont have to struggle to get out when you have a bite. I personally use a the Total fishing gear 5 season bag and has done me well in very cold temps as i use it for camping as well. They also do a beefed up version which is even warmer. the second option is to buy a sleeping bag from a dedicated camping company which will just be a normal sleeping bag but you will find they have been designed with very cold temps in mind. Plus you could look into getting a bedchair cover which will help keep you warm in the colder months. other things you can do to keep warm is have a clean set of clothes to change into when your getting ready to get in the bag. These will be dry so will keep you much warmer, since sweat will stay on your clothes and get cold which will make you cold. Put your unneeded tackle bags under your bedchair and this will help keep the cold air from the floor coming onto your bed. and take a blanket, This will give you a extra layer of warmth. the trakker i bought about 6 years ago and it was already very worn back then. but the jrc i bought brand new and it says 5 season but still isnt warm enough in cold temps. i just dont understand it!!!! im really worried to buy another in case its not good enough and then i would have wasted money. You may have bad blood circulation like me so even when your all warped up in a bag you will still feel the cold. invest in a bedchair cover as that will give you a extra layer of warmth and also make up a flask of hot tea/coffee/soup and when your feeling really cold have a cup of it, will help alot. what soooooooo many people dont realise is that a lot of the time you get cold because of the thinness of the bed and the cold air underneath you, a decent padded bed or even a piece of carpet under your bed will usually help big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james666 Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Im quite surprised that the jrc or the tracker bags dont keep you warm especially if they are 5 season but bags will lose there thermal proprieties over time so if they are both quite old then that could be why. For a new sleeping bag, you have two options. First is to buy a bag made by a tackle company, probably the most comfortable since they will normally have straps on them to attach them to the bedchair so you dont have to struggle to get out when you have a bite. I personally use a the Total fishing gear 5 season bag and has done me well in very cold temps as i use it for camping as well. They also do a beefed up version which is even warmer. the second option is to buy a sleeping bag from a dedicated camping company which will just be a normal sleeping bag but you will find they have been designed with very cold temps in mind. Plus you could look into getting a bedchair cover which will help keep you warm in the colder months. other things you can do to keep warm is have a clean set of clothes to change into when your getting ready to get in the bag. These will be dry so will keep you much warmer, since sweat will stay on your clothes and get cold which will make you cold. Put your unneeded tackle bags under your bedchair and this will help keep the cold air from the floor coming onto your bed. and take a blanket, This will give you a extra layer of warmth. the trakker i bought about 6 years ago and it was already very worn back then. but the jrc i bought brand new and it says 5 season but still isnt warm enough in cold temps. i just dont understand it!!!! im really worried to buy another in case its not good enough and then i would have wasted money. You may have bad blood circulation like me so even when your all warped up in a bag you will still feel the cold. invest in a bedchair cover as that will give you a extra layer of warmth and also make up a flask of hot tea/coffee/soup and when your feeling really cold have a cup of it, will help alot. what soooooooo many people dont realise is that a lot of the time you get cold because of the thinness of the bed and the cold air underneath you, a decent padded bed or even a piece of carpet under your bed will usually help big time Oh i know the cold floor can contribute which is why i put in my first post to put the tackle bags you dont need under the bed cause they act as a barrier between the cold floor and your bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 also people can wear too much clothing in their sleeping bags. the bags rely on your body heat to warm them up but if you get in the bag with plenty of layers on then your body is warming the layers of clothing and not the bag. all i wear is a pair of tracksuit bottoms and a tshirtno matter how cold it is. also wear a wooly hat in bed, makes a massive differnce as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 also people can wear too much clothing in their sleeping bags. the bags rely on your body heat to warm them up but if you get in the bag with plenty of layers on then your body is warming the layers of clothing and not the bag. all i wear is a pair of tracksuit bottoms and a tshirtno matter how cold it is. also wear a wooly hat in bed, makes a massive differnce as wellgood point mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 also people can wear too much clothing in their sleeping bags. the bags rely on your body heat to warm them up but if you get in the bag with plenty of layers on then your body is warming the layers of clothing and not the bag. all i wear is a pair of tracksuit bottoms and a tshirtno matter how cold it is. also wear a wooly hat in bed, makes a massive differnce as well I agree with yours and Gaz's comment about too much clothing in the bag. At night in the winter one of the best things to wear is a pair of jogging bottoms; they are light enough to wear comfortably and if it does get chilly out should you need to get up, then you can pull a decent pair of trousers over them. A t-shirt for the top half is also easy enough to pull warm clothing and jackets over, although playing a fish trying to pull a smock style hoodie or jacket on is a bit awkward, so I would suggest putting clothing on before getting out the bivvy if possible. As for sleeping bag, a mate of mine swears by his Trakker Big Snooze and cover, although I went the camping shop option and got myself a minus 12 bag by Coleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnplumb Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I don't get this going to bed with not alot on , you have sat there all day warming up what you have been wearing and then you take it all off and get into a cold sleeping bag . Then in the morning you get to put on a load of cold clothes and you have to warm them up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I don't get this going to bed with not alot on , you have sat there all day warming up what you have been wearing and then you take it all off and get into a cold sleeping bag . Then in the morning you get to put on a load of cold clothes and you have to warm them up . Sleeping bags are designed to work against your skin, in reality you would be best off in the nip. One of the quickest ways to loose heat is through sweat evaporating, and getting in a sleeping bag with a load of clothes on will make you sweat, in turn making you colder than if you had nothig on at all. Getting changed into fresh thremals, jogging bottoms and a light mid layer fleece at night is the way for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnplumb Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I don't get this going to bed with not alot on , you have sat there all day warming up what you have been wearing and then you take it all off and get into a cold sleeping bag . Then in the morning you get to put on a load of cold clothes and you have to warm them up . Sleeping bags are designed to work against your skin, in reality you would be best off in the nip. One of the quickest ways to loose heat is through sweat evaporating, and getting in a sleeping bag with a load of clothes on will make you sweat, in turn making you colder than if you had nothig on at all. Getting changed into fresh thremals, jogging bottoms and a light mid layer fleece at night is the way for me. So why not sleep in a pair of boxers ? if what you say is right why bother with thermals ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Thermals are designed to be as close to skin as possible, so you can get away with it, i only wear them so that if i get a run at 2am in -5 i'm not stood outside in my pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalthegooner Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Thermals are designed to be as close to skin as possible, so you can get away with it, i only wear them so that if i get a run at 2am in -5 i'm not stood outside in my pants. Unless it's deep winter, I'm stood outside in my pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james666 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I think the amount of clothing you have on dont make a big difference compared to wearing clean clothes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanz Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I think the amount of clothing you have on dont make a big difference compared to wearing clean clothes... so is shivering a result of soap dodging???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgart Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 make sure you are using right underwear and dont get too warm before the cold comes. Also make sure you are fed before going to bed. Bed chair cover also does tremendous difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james666 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I think the amount of clothing you have on dont make a big difference compared to wearing clean clothes... so is shivering a result of soap dodging???? yes, if you see someone shivering then dont go near them as they will have a rather strong smell around them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNut63 Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Just to add to this several yrs later, as I, m shopping for a new bag! Fact is, some feel the cold more than others like myself, bad circulation to fingers and toes. I always put a spare bag on the bedchair as a mattress. B B and crusian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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