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For me it's simple, its horses for courses. Any amount of accuracy is all down to the angler and their ability and what equipment they are more comfortable with. Someone will be more at home with a 10ft rod than a 12ft rod. I use 12ft rods for all my fishing. I did once buy a 13ft set but literally sold them in a month as I just didn't get on with them. I didn't feel I had balance etc and most certainly lost accuracy with them. Went back to my 12ft rods and could hit a tree line or marker with my usual accuracy. So I'd say its down to the individuals rather than the fact it's a 10ft or 13ft rod or whatever. This is also why I only ever buy custom built rods for my carp fishing. They are built to my specifications. The real seat is situated on the rod blank to suit the length of my arm/reach . This aids massively in getting the balance right. Infact as I started beach fishing last year I brought for the first time, off the shelf rods. I didn't like them but I needed them for my sea fishing so put up with them. I got chatting to my rod builder friend who told me to take them to him. I did this and he moved the reel seat, first cast with the rod and easily gained 30yds on my cast. So balance is a massive thing to aid with distance and accuracy in my opinion. The thing is, when I left his house I'd ordered a pair of custom built harrison beach casters.

In my opinion the arc of the rod has no bearing on it. When you let go of the lead will determine how high the lead goes, whether that's a 6 foot rod all the way up to a 13 foot rod. So casting under a tree canopy at 40yds is all down to the individuals casting technique, not the rod.

At distance longer rods will be far more accurate & there's No way a shorter rod will out perform a longer for distance. Bigger the arc the further your cast . How long does a 12ft rod become during the cast ?

Good places for the barbel at Adams farm a few years ago if you knew where they were

If you're unsure whether the bleeps are liners or pick-ups change your rigs over to something that will tell you if you've been done, such as a multi-rig or blow back with silicon down the hook shank. Reel in after an occurrence you look at the hook end - if your been done you'll see straight away, if everything is normal it wasn't a pick-up, so a liner or trailer. Just a thought 👍

Would the angle change when I wear my stilettos due to the extra height P.s I get what your saying in theory .

If the lead has moved, usually, somehow a fish is responsible, be it a fish trailing line, line 'bite', or a rig ejection. Undertow can move a lead, and cause constant action on the bobbins though. You may need to up the indicator weight to prevent this movement. Bobbins should NOT be chosen on fashion, but on actual fishing situation, and mega light bobbins are not suitable on every water, even every swim.

Argues the toss??? I don't think anyone on here, (except you obviously), could ever call me argumentative...... I just said I find shorter rods more accurate. I hardly call that argumentative......?????????????

Spot on

If your only talking a flick for a cast then most rods should be equal , But once you start loading a rod it's a different ball game .

I understand what you are saying here but surely we all have one technique of casting so if im casting a rod 10ft or 12ft say 70 yards the outcome in accuracy would be the same but if I was to cast the same rods to 100 yards then surely the 10ft rod would be less accurate as id have to give it more power to reach the distance just my thoughts

I am shocked you lads are being slightly controversial and haven't had the whole thread edited! 😲

stop confusing matters your Rodney or is it Dave

Na not french carp 120yards minimum 😂 I didn’t mean like that just I don’t really fish big waters and the biggest lake I’ve fished is 12 acres Which isn’t that big compare to some. And I’m not going to lie I always thought with a big lake u have to be able to cast far away weather or not your fishing at that range but need it in your arsenal in case the fish are in front of you but At range but that’s probably because of YouTube.

the thing about rods and tackle its all down to personal choice so everyone uses what suits them and there fishing and there budget

That is an issue with technique mate. It is not possible to cast further with a 10 than it is a 12 ft rod bud. The blank simply cannot be compressed with the same load.

For a small percentage of anglers it's because they fish small water with tight swims. For others it's to save weight/space and to support the mobile angling approach. For most it's a fashion statement imo. Sacrificing casting distance to sport the latest must-have kit. I will always use 12 ft rods, they allow me to do everything.