elmoputney Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 With my spinner rig becoming pretty much completed and I don't think there is anything more that can really be done with it. I'm a bit bored of it now,😬 Time for a new challenge. I'm going to only use slip d rigs from now and see where that takes me, something Kev said got me thinking about all the clutter on rigs so I thought it might be nice to lose some of it, and go back to basics. I'm going to start with a shrink tube kicker and probably a wide gape as I felt that looked pretty good when I tied some up the other day. I like the fact I can get some seperation and also have a nice low pop up. I tied some up using a coated braid but, one thing I do like about my. Spinner rigs is the use of stiff boom material ironically called Boom. So I will try and incorporate that at some point. Once I've played some more I will add some pics and stuff commonly and kevtaylor 2 Quote
framey Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 Stiff section boom Soft hinged section multi rig ala combi rig kevtaylor and commonly 2 Quote
kevtaylor Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 2 hours ago, elmoputney said: With my spinner rig becoming pretty much completed and I don't think there is anything more that can really be done with it. I'm a bit bored of it now,😬 Time for a new challenge. I'm going to only use slip d rigs from now and see where that takes me, something Kev said got me thinking about all the clutter on rigs so I thought it might be nice to lose some of it, and go back to basics. I'm going to start with a shrink tube kicker and probably a wide gape as I felt that looked pretty good when I tied some up the other day. I like the fact I can get some seperation and also have a nice low pop up. I tied some up using a coated braid but, one thing I do like about my. Spinner rigs is the use of stiff boom material ironically called Boom. So I will try and incorporate that at some point. Once I've played some more I will add some pics and stuff You have stripped the coating for the hook loop? This is my other rig - another multi (slip D style), bottom baits and wafters - can do with a stiff link with a supple end loop or just coated braid stripped only for the hook loop. Will put a pic up later 👍 elmoputney 1 Quote
Golden Paws Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 I've been using this rig for the last few years and pretty happy with it. I have refined it a bit and use it Combi style with a bit of flourocarbon and a hybrid loop at the other end. I deliberately make the fluoro loop quite big so it really kicks the hook section away. elmoputney 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 16 Author Report Posted September 16 57 minutes ago, kevtaylor said: You have stripped the coating for the hook loop? This is my other rig - another multi (slip D style), bottom baits and wafters - can do with a stiff link with a supple end loop or just coated braid stripped only for the hook loop. Will put a pic up later 👍 Yep coating back to below the shrink tube kicker so it can turn a bit more freely kevtaylor 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 16 Author Report Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Golden Paws said: I've been using this rig for the last few years and pretty happy with it. I have refined it a bit and use it Combi style with a bit of flourocarbon and a hybrid loop at the other end. I deliberately make the fluoro loop quite big so it really kicks the hook section away. Thanks Do you use the silicone like M Holly? If so does it stop the hook pulling like a traditional multi rig? Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 15 minutes ago, elmoputney said: If so does it stop the hook pulling like a traditional multi rig? I put a length of rig tubing on the hook on normal multi-rigs. That stops the loop pulling tight. Don't use silicone tubing as that can split, I think mine is a thin rig tube. jh92 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 16 Author Report Posted September 16 First attempt size 4 ESP Claw hammer 20lb hybrid stiff. The business end 2nd attempt J Precision long gape, n trap soft I think I prefer option 1 so far. I also need some bulk shrink tube lol. kevtaylor 1 Quote
kevtaylor Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 17 hours ago, elmoputney said: First attempt size 4 ESP Claw hammer 20lb hybrid stiff. The business end 2nd attempt J Precision long gape, n trap soft I think I prefer option 1 so far. I also need some bulk shrink tube lol. Looks tidy mate 👍 elmoputney 1 Quote
Golden Paws Posted September 17 Report Posted September 17 On 16/09/2024 at 18:13, elmoputney said: Do you use the silicone like M Holly? Yes. It naturally bends a bit anyway to create the bent hook arrangement. If you use shrink tube, you wouldn't be able to change the hook at will. elmoputney 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 17 Author Report Posted September 17 4 hours ago, kevtaylor said: Looks tidy mate 👍 Yeah I think they will work nicely tbh but only time will tell. 16 minutes ago, Golden Paws said: Yes. It naturally bends a bit anyway to create the bent hook arrangement. If you use shrink tube, you wouldn't be able to change the hook at will. Thanks I don't think I've got any silicone that size at the moment, will get some and have a try. I don't mind having to tie a whole rig everytime if it means it's perfect. Shrink tube heating can be a chore though, would probably mean just doing some in advance at times. Quote
kevtaylor Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 19 hours ago, elmoputney said: Yeah I think they will work nicely tbh but only time will tell. Thanks I don't think I've got any silicone that size at the moment, will get some and have a try. I don't mind having to tie a whole rig everytime if it means it's perfect. Shrink tube heating can be a chore though, would probably mean just doing some in advance at times. Just use a kicker mate elmoputney and jh92 2 Quote
ouchthathurt Posted September 18 Report Posted September 18 I’ve been using slip d rigs for the last year or so, with esp claw hammer hooks and fox line aligners mate. They work well elmoputney and kevtaylor 2 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 19 Author Report Posted September 19 20 hours ago, ouchthathurt said: I’ve been using slip d rigs for the last year or so, with esp claw hammer hooks and fox line aligners mate. They work well I like the claw hammer for an unsharpened hook they are naturally pretty sharp. Quote
elmoputney Posted September 21 Author Report Posted September 21 I've quit on slip D rigs😂 1 bite, one loss, my rods now all have classic spinners on again. 😎 You can't shortcut rig confidence. I've moved and I'm in the right zone, come on the chunky ones. Higham1987, yonny and commonly 3 Quote
Golden Paws Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 Surely you can't judge a rig by one lost fish???? I've had my best ever season, regularly catching 6 to 8 fish in 8 hour morning or afternoon sessions on a days only water. Although the water is prolific, I've been getting amongst the better fish and managed a brace of 20's a few weeks ago, not bad seeing as I had only caught 2 previously in the last 10 years. The slip D and the Ronnie aren't a mile apart but I prefer the more subtle way you can tweak it to make the last inch flexible and make a more balanced bait. To me, the Ronnie seems a bit too blatant. That said, confidence is key and if you're sat behind rods expecting to lose fish, it can be hard work. commonly 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 21 Author Report Posted September 21 51 minutes ago, Golden Paws said: Surely you can't judge a rig by one lost fish???? I've had my best ever season, regularly catching 6 to 8 fish in 8 hour morning or afternoon sessions on a days only water. Although the water is prolific, I've been getting amongst the better fish and managed a brace of 20's a few weeks ago, not bad seeing as I had only caught 2 previously in the last 10 years. The slip D and the Ronnie aren't a mile apart but I prefer the more subtle way you can tweak it to make the last inch flexible and make a more balanced bait. To me, the Ronnie seems a bit too blatant. That said, confidence is key and if you're sat behind rods expecting to lose fish, it can be hard work. I think it is more not the time to experiment, that could have been the biggun, or the linear I really want to catch, now my owny concern is whether I put enough bait out earlier, I can hear a fairly decent acoustic band tonight, quite country they played the gambler and they have a girl singer who sounds really good. Would prefer to hear my bite alarm screaming though commonly 1 Quote
crusian Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 2 hours ago, elmoputney said: I've quit on slip D rigs😂 1 bite, one loss, my rods now all have classic spinners on again. 😎 You can't shortcut rig confidence. I've moved and I'm in the right zone, come on the chunky ones. A chunky for Mr Chunkey 😁 elmoputney and commonly 1 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted September 21 Author Report Posted September 21 1 minute ago, crusian said: A chunky for Mr Chunkey 😁 Not a kitkat chunky either. I fell into a burning ring of fire,i went down, down, down as the flames they went higher. commonly 1 Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted September 22 Report Posted September 22 My Multi-rig with a RH Hemp Naturalz, and the lead on a run ring. It's produced a lot of fish, either with a 12mm Monster Crab pop-up, a trimmed down yellow pop-up or the Naturalz. It's the rig I fish over particles (Hemp and pigeon conditioner) and pellets. Quote
Higham1987 Posted September 23 Report Posted September 23 15 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: My Multi-rig with a RH Hemp Naturalz, and the lead on a run ring. It's produced a lot of fish, either with a 12mm Monster Crab pop-up, a trimmed down yellow pop-up or the Naturalz. It's the rig I fish over particles (Hemp and pigeon conditioner) and pellets. Is this what you put all into a PVA Bag ? Quote
jh92 Posted September 23 Report Posted September 23 I seen a rig by Darrell peck called the multi combi rig which I thought I'd try myself. My choice of materials were: Korda boom for the boom section Esp anchor braid for the soft section Korda size 6 curve shank Korda medium kicker Nash bait screw. I use an albright knot to tie the two materials together. I rarely fish popups but when bites were hard to get on the bottom baits, I've fired this rig out and it's produced a few fish. The hook holds have been nailed in the bottom lip every time 👍 It's my goto for presenting pop ups at the moment. I've tried the Ronnie spinner rig but I struggle to get a bite on it, it's probably down to me setting it up wrong but I can't seem to get it to work 🤷♂️🤣 elmoputney 1 Quote
Higham1987 Posted September 23 Report Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, yonny said: Not me mate, I rate the spinner. Mate..... I though it was strange when you ditched the spinner you'd perfected. Important lesson to be learned there. If it works, don't fix it👌 I use the Nash Claw Spinner for Bottom, Pop Ups and Wafters.... Then now trying Zigs more.... That's about it really rigs wise. Quote
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