elmoputney Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 With my spinner rig becoming pretty much completed and I don't think there is anything more that can really be done with it. I'm a bit bored of it now,😬 Time for a new challenge. I'm going to only use slip d rigs from now and see where that takes me, something Kev said got me thinking about all the clutter on rigs so I thought it might be nice to lose some of it, and go back to basics. I'm going to start with a shrink tube kicker and probably a wide gape as I felt that looked pretty good when I tied some up the other day. I like the fact I can get some seperation and also have a nice low pop up. I tied some up using a coated braid but, one thing I do like about my. Spinner rigs is the use of stiff boom material ironically called Boom. So I will try and incorporate that at some point. Once I've played some more I will add some pics and stuff commonly and kevtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Stiff section boom Soft hinged section multi rig ala combi rig kevtaylor and commonly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 2 hours ago, elmoputney said: With my spinner rig becoming pretty much completed and I don't think there is anything more that can really be done with it. I'm a bit bored of it now,😬 Time for a new challenge. I'm going to only use slip d rigs from now and see where that takes me, something Kev said got me thinking about all the clutter on rigs so I thought it might be nice to lose some of it, and go back to basics. I'm going to start with a shrink tube kicker and probably a wide gape as I felt that looked pretty good when I tied some up the other day. I like the fact I can get some seperation and also have a nice low pop up. I tied some up using a coated braid but, one thing I do like about my. Spinner rigs is the use of stiff boom material ironically called Boom. So I will try and incorporate that at some point. Once I've played some more I will add some pics and stuff You have stripped the coating for the hook loop? This is my other rig - another multi (slip D style), bottom baits and wafters - can do with a stiff link with a supple end loop or just coated braid stripped only for the hook loop. Will put a pic up later 👍 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 I've been using this rig for the last few years and pretty happy with it. I have refined it a bit and use it Combi style with a bit of flourocarbon and a hybrid loop at the other end. I deliberately make the fluoro loop quite big so it really kicks the hook section away. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 16 Author Report Share Posted September 16 57 minutes ago, kevtaylor said: You have stripped the coating for the hook loop? This is my other rig - another multi (slip D style), bottom baits and wafters - can do with a stiff link with a supple end loop or just coated braid stripped only for the hook loop. Will put a pic up later 👍 Yep coating back to below the shrink tube kicker so it can turn a bit more freely kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 16 Author Report Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Golden Paws said: I've been using this rig for the last few years and pretty happy with it. I have refined it a bit and use it Combi style with a bit of flourocarbon and a hybrid loop at the other end. I deliberately make the fluoro loop quite big so it really kicks the hook section away. Thanks Do you use the silicone like M Holly? If so does it stop the hook pulling like a traditional multi rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 15 minutes ago, elmoputney said: If so does it stop the hook pulling like a traditional multi rig? I put a length of rig tubing on the hook on normal multi-rigs. That stops the loop pulling tight. Don't use silicone tubing as that can split, I think mine is a thin rig tube. jh92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 16 Author Report Share Posted September 16 First attempt size 4 ESP Claw hammer 20lb hybrid stiff. The business end 2nd attempt J Precision long gape, n trap soft I think I prefer option 1 so far. I also need some bulk shrink tube lol. kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 17 hours ago, elmoputney said: First attempt size 4 ESP Claw hammer 20lb hybrid stiff. The business end 2nd attempt J Precision long gape, n trap soft I think I prefer option 1 so far. I also need some bulk shrink tube lol. Looks tidy mate 👍 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 On 16/09/2024 at 18:13, elmoputney said: Do you use the silicone like M Holly? Yes. It naturally bends a bit anyway to create the bent hook arrangement. If you use shrink tube, you wouldn't be able to change the hook at will. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 17 Author Report Share Posted September 17 4 hours ago, kevtaylor said: Looks tidy mate 👍 Yeah I think they will work nicely tbh but only time will tell. 16 minutes ago, Golden Paws said: Yes. It naturally bends a bit anyway to create the bent hook arrangement. If you use shrink tube, you wouldn't be able to change the hook at will. Thanks I don't think I've got any silicone that size at the moment, will get some and have a try. I don't mind having to tie a whole rig everytime if it means it's perfect. Shrink tube heating can be a chore though, would probably mean just doing some in advance at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 19 hours ago, elmoputney said: Yeah I think they will work nicely tbh but only time will tell. Thanks I don't think I've got any silicone that size at the moment, will get some and have a try. I don't mind having to tie a whole rig everytime if it means it's perfect. Shrink tube heating can be a chore though, would probably mean just doing some in advance at times. Just use a kicker mate jh92 and elmoputney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 you used a line aligner 👏 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 I’ve been using slip d rigs for the last year or so, with esp claw hammer hooks and fox line aligners mate. They work well elmoputney and kevtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 19 Author Report Share Posted September 19 20 hours ago, ouchthathurt said: I’ve been using slip d rigs for the last year or so, with esp claw hammer hooks and fox line aligners mate. They work well I like the claw hammer for an unsharpened hook they are naturally pretty sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 21 Author Report Share Posted September 21 I've quit on slip D rigs😂 1 bite, one loss, my rods now all have classic spinners on again. 😎 You can't shortcut rig confidence. I've moved and I'm in the right zone, come on the chunky ones. commonly, yonny and Higham1987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Paws Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Surely you can't judge a rig by one lost fish???? I've had my best ever season, regularly catching 6 to 8 fish in 8 hour morning or afternoon sessions on a days only water. Although the water is prolific, I've been getting amongst the better fish and managed a brace of 20's a few weeks ago, not bad seeing as I had only caught 2 previously in the last 10 years. The slip D and the Ronnie aren't a mile apart but I prefer the more subtle way you can tweak it to make the last inch flexible and make a more balanced bait. To me, the Ronnie seems a bit too blatant. That said, confidence is key and if you're sat behind rods expecting to lose fish, it can be hard work. commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 21 Author Report Share Posted September 21 51 minutes ago, Golden Paws said: Surely you can't judge a rig by one lost fish???? I've had my best ever season, regularly catching 6 to 8 fish in 8 hour morning or afternoon sessions on a days only water. Although the water is prolific, I've been getting amongst the better fish and managed a brace of 20's a few weeks ago, not bad seeing as I had only caught 2 previously in the last 10 years. The slip D and the Ronnie aren't a mile apart but I prefer the more subtle way you can tweak it to make the last inch flexible and make a more balanced bait. To me, the Ronnie seems a bit too blatant. That said, confidence is key and if you're sat behind rods expecting to lose fish, it can be hard work. I think it is more not the time to experiment, that could have been the biggun, or the linear I really want to catch, now my owny concern is whether I put enough bait out earlier, I can hear a fairly decent acoustic band tonight, quite country they played the gambler and they have a girl singer who sounds really good. Would prefer to hear my bite alarm screaming though commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, elmoputney said: I've quit on slip D rigs😂 1 bite, one loss, my rods now all have classic spinners on again. 😎 You can't shortcut rig confidence. I've moved and I'm in the right zone, come on the chunky ones. A chunky for Mr Chunkey 😁 elmoputney and commonly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted September 21 Author Report Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, crusian said: A chunky for Mr Chunkey 😁 Not a kitkat chunky either. I fell into a burning ring of fire,i went down, down, down as the flames they went higher. commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 My Multi-rig with a RH Hemp Naturalz, and the lead on a run ring. It's produced a lot of fish, either with a 12mm Monster Crab pop-up, a trimmed down yellow pop-up or the Naturalz. It's the rig I fish over particles (Hemp and pigeon conditioner) and pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higham1987 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 15 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: My Multi-rig with a RH Hemp Naturalz, and the lead on a run ring. It's produced a lot of fish, either with a 12mm Monster Crab pop-up, a trimmed down yellow pop-up or the Naturalz. It's the rig I fish over particles (Hemp and pigeon conditioner) and pellets. Is this what you put all into a PVA Bag ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh92 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 I seen a rig by Darrell peck called the multi combi rig which I thought I'd try myself. My choice of materials were: Korda boom for the boom section Esp anchor braid for the soft section Korda size 6 curve shank Korda medium kicker Nash bait screw. I use an albright knot to tie the two materials together. I rarely fish popups but when bites were hard to get on the bottom baits, I've fired this rig out and it's produced a few fish. The hook holds have been nailed in the bottom lip every time 👍 It's my goto for presenting pop ups at the moment. I've tried the Ronnie spinner rig but I struggle to get a bite on it, it's probably down to me setting it up wrong but I can't seem to get it to work 🤷♂️🤣 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higham1987 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, yonny said: Not me mate, I rate the spinner. Mate..... I though it was strange when you ditched the spinner you'd perfected. Important lesson to be learned there. If it works, don't fix it👌 I use the Nash Claw Spinner for Bottom, Pop Ups and Wafters.... Then now trying Zigs more.... That's about it really rigs wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 All confidence.. jh92 and yonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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