Easy bottom bait rigs

[elmoputney]

  On 15/08/2019 at 17:58, chillfactor said:

Love a snowman ... caught plenty of fish on them & what I use on the deck .

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Im hoping you're not talking bream

Just ordered a couple of different patterns to Try including a long shank both straight point 👍

[salokcinnodrog]

  On 14/08/2019 at 17:08, chillfactor said:

I've done away with any kickers over the last couple of years for bottom baits  . If you look at your first rig Elmo imo you've clossed the gape of the hook a lot , if you draw a straight line from your kicker to hook point your see what I mean . I personally think to big a kicker will mean more fish getting away with it ? .

 

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Phil,

at the same time, look how effective the bent hook rig was. 

Elmo's rig is on those lines, difficult to eject.

[yonny]

I think your rig looks ok elmo.

  On 15/08/2019 at 19:56, elmoputney said:

Just ordered a couple of different patterns to Try including a long shank both straight point 👍

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Careful not to bamboozle yourself mate. I can see no reason you'd need a long shank. The important bit is putting your rig in front of feeding carp.

[crusian]

  On 25/07/2019 at 22:14, Dannygooner said:

I’m gunna say the comment that is gunna make people wince, but buy some pre made rigs 😂. I also hate tieing my own and quite frankly I’m rubbish at doing so. I’m all fingers and thumbs and they never have the finesse I would like. I do tie rigs on the bank if a situation demands it, but I use a fella on eBay who ties me up exactly what I want, when I want, and from what materials I want for absolute pennies. I don’t have the time to be pre tieing loads of rigs. Have a look mate. When it comes to being on the bank I don’t want to spend all that limited time I have tieing rigs either. I’m there to take in my surrounding and relax. 

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Which " fella on eBay " is that please , Danny ? .

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[chillfactor]

  On 16/08/2019 at 08:39, yonny said:

I think your rig looks ok elmo.

Careful not to bamboozle yourself mate. I can see no reason you'd need a long shank. The important bit is putting your rig in front of feeding carp.

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Agreed defo no need for long shanks .

[elmoputney]

  On 16/08/2019 at 08:39, yonny said:

I think your rig looks ok elmo.

Careful not to bamboozle yourself mate. I can see no reason you'd need a long shank. The important bit is putting your rig in front of feeding carp.

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I think they are OK my pop up rig seems to work and has nailed a few fish on my test runs, I just think a straight point may be better, however I got some good news today bank tackle will be releasing some of the wide gapes with a straight point I think that will be the one 

  On 16/08/2019 at 19:53, chillfactor said:

Agreed defo no need for long shanks .

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Long shanks are really just to have a play with to see what I can do with them really 

[elmoputney]

The long shanks arrived today I think they could be a useful hook, they aren't massive like the old longshank nailors, but the angle on the eye and the straight point, may just make them a good choice for pop ups I think, I will try and tie one up to show you when I get time, 

[elmoputney]

I think the longshank looks pretty good tbh looks tricky to eject and with a straight point opens it up a little more 

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90% of my rigs are now loop rigs...ALL made from scratch with all Quality Terminal...not having what happened last week 😭😭

Can be used as bottom or pop up's.

[finchey]

  On 19/08/2019 at 15:47, Highy said:

90% of my rigs are now loop rigs...ALL made from scratch with all Quality Terminal...not having what happened last week 😭😭

Can be used as bottom or pop up's.

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Have I missed something,🤔 what happened last week? 👍

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  On 19/08/2019 at 16:01, finchey said:

Have I missed something,🤔 what happened last week? 👍

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I did a few simple knotless rigs with some brade and hooks (no brand)...and while at Fan Lodge i was playing a fish holding bottom using its weight...had a few decent lunges and was on a good 10min...got to inder rod tip and braid snapped jus above hook were stripped back....

So all rigs are now Korda Boom..Crimped..with Korda N-Trap stripped and Nash Claw hooks...loop style.

[elmoputney]

  On 19/08/2019 at 16:07, Highy said:

I did a few simple knotless rigs with some brade and hooks (no brand)...and while at Fan Lodge i was playing a fish holding bottom using its weight...had a few decent lunges and was on a good 10min...got to inder rod tip and braid snapped jus above hook were stripped back....

So all rigs are now Korda Boom..Crimped..with Korda N-Trap stripped and Nash Claw hooks...loop style.

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What braid was it? , these things do happen sometimes even with good braids, especially if there are zebra mussels in the water, sometimes you just get unlucky but it makes the lucky days feel better 

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  On 19/08/2019 at 16:01, finchey said:

Have I missed something,🤔 what happened last week? 👍

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  On 19/08/2019 at 16:07, Highy said:

I did a few simple knotless rigs with some brade and hooks (no brand)...and while at Fan Lodge i was playing a fish holding bottom using its weight...had a few decent lunges and was on a good 10min...got to inder rod tip and braid snapped jus above hook were stripped back....

So all rigs are now Korda Boom..Crimped..with Korda N-Trap stripped and Nash Claw hooks...loop style.

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The Fish i lost last week was DEFFO one of the lakes bigger residence too...would have been a PB.

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  On 19/08/2019 at 16:30, elmoputney said:

What braid was it? , these things do happen sometimes even with good braids, especially if there are zebra mussels in the water, sometimes you just get unlucky but it makes the lucky days feel better 

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Suffix Stiff Link (i think)...but upgraded the lot now...

[elmoputney]

  On 19/08/2019 at 16:36, Highy said:

Suffix Stiff Link (i think)...but upgraded the lot now...

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I think it may have just been unlucky tbh what do you use to strip the braid? It just seems weird that it broke where you stripped it? 

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  On 19/08/2019 at 16:58, elmoputney said:

I think it may have just been unlucky tbh what do you use to strip the braid? It just seems weird that it broke where you stripped it? 

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Finger Nails...brake with nail then just pulled down...

[elmoputney]

  On 19/08/2019 at 17:01, Highy said:

Finger Nails...brake with nail then just pulled down...

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That's what I do or bite them a bit, I wouldn't let it worry you too much though we all lose them, you will get another chance 

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  On 19/08/2019 at 17:03, elmoputney said:

That's what I do or bite them a bit, I wouldn't let it worry you too much though we all lose them, you will get another chance 

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Deffo be back on that lake...may get around September though...going to a different lake Sunday...then next week off for some sturgeon...then week after i will be on the local lake were i lost it EVER DAY for a week...

[elmoputney]

  On 19/08/2019 at 17:06, Highy said:

Deffo be back on that lake...may get around September though...going to a different lake Sunday...then next week off for some sturgeon...then week after i will be on the local lake were i lost it EVER DAY for a week...

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I thought sturgeon only happened in France but I see a lot of pics of them nowadays 

[finchey]

  On 19/08/2019 at 16:36, Highy said:

 

The Fish i lost last week was DEFFO one of the lakes bigger residence too...would have been a PB.

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Unlucky mate☹️ I'm sure you'll get another chance mate you do put plenty of time in on that place. 

[salokcinnodrog]

We have come a bit off topic of just  rigs, but just as an example this is the rig, the exact rig, hook etc that caught me four fish from the reservoir. I have made the comment in the past about hook sharpness; if they aren't sharp enough  out of the pack, then don't use them. Get a brand that is.

 

You can see how much abuse that has taken as the coating on the braid has been well rubbed and the point no longer looks sharp. The hair was  the stripped  hooklink braid long enough for 2x 20mm boilies, straight out of the bait bucket fished hard on the bottom around bridge supports.