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  1. 2 hours ago, Carpbell_ll said:

    i have a plum flavour i will use, also have JB's TM1 which is a strangwe flavour used it last year the carp where looking for it, that was in a milk base mix though so not sure it will go in a fishmael bait? 

    They will both work, cream based flavours can work really well in a fishmeal, Im sure JB doesnt recommend mixing TM1 with other flavours due to its complex make up, my preference is low level (1ml/1.5ml per kilo) of both these in a fishmeal food bait.


    1 hour ago, elmoputney said:

    Have you tried super boost its like liquid marmite, I like soaking my baits in that and liver hydro it's a strong combo 

    Yes, I use it in conjunction with Nut Hydro and Special K in my particles :)

  2. On 19/04/2022 at 10:02, Carpbell_ll said:

    that's the bit that always got me confused i thought the pop up mix was something you could add to a basemix at say 40 % to make pop ups. i guess it's how mainline and others make their for sale pop ups? with the polaris type mix?

    Nope, but doing that might give you some decent wafters, for pop ups just use the pop up mix of your choice.

  3. So as far as I am aware carp can not detect oils they have no receptors for it, what they can detect is the lipids and any micro nutrients that are dispersed into the water as the oil rises off what ever its attached to.

    Which oil is best ?, well can depend on the time of year when the water is colder i would stay away from fish oils as the congeal in the cold water and will leave a fatty residue all over what you have coated or soaked in them, best test is take your oil of choice and put a little bit in the fridge and see what happens to it.  I have also listened to something recently that suggest it doesnt really what which oil you choose as they all have a good lipid content and its the other things oil can bring like being a converyor for other items that you have mixed it with like lifting particles into the water column. You dont need to pay carp tax for a good oil, the supermarkets crry plenty Good Hemp Oil and Toasted Seasame Seed Oil are 2 that I use.

    Some of the other liquids are Hydroylsates and shouldnt be confused with Oils as they are very different but they can be mixed together to create a good effect for drawing fish to bait.

    Cloudy liquids, just find a combination of liquids you like and get some condensed milk from the supermarket and mix then together will cloud th water up a treat.

    If you use the Cap Oil make sure you wash your hands before going to the toilet 😉😆


  4. Seeing as the original Trop recipe that was released on HMBB contain BAF tropical Fruit which is in the same vein as Fruit Bomb I  would suggest they would be a good companion.I would would recommend keeping the levels on the low side though for a feed bait as JB Flavours are generally very concentrated.

  5. There is no money to be saved in making your own these days cost of ingredients + delivery + waste/leftover as recipes nearly always have some left overs, so does making your own still have a place of course it does but do it because you get a buzz from learning and putting something together yourself that catches fish.

    And yes I do still make my own.

  6. The group that originally had input when this was put together, were a members of this forum including myself, its a good mix pretty much covers everything a fish needs nutritionally, still use a slightly altered version of it myself due to not being able to hold quantities of ings these days.

    Loads of people use it with JB flavours, 2ml Ala Salar 1ml Plum (to 6 eggs) is a good one. 

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    bit of an odd question but what's the maximum time you could put a fresh made paste log into the fridge and still roll it on a table roller, some pastries and dough's can be left overnight in the fridge before working, would a base mix become too stiff for rolling if left overnight in the fridge? 

    It purely depends on the mix mate, i couldnt leave my current mix in the fridge overnight it would be to stiff to gun out.  TBH i just leave for an hour tops if im just doing 6 eggs or just roll it straighty away.


  8. 1 hour ago, commonly said:


    I've been looking at the mini 2. Is it worth getting the fly more package?

    Noted about licence etc. The mini is under 250g but need it for commercial use. 

    The venue is private and no ban as to my knowledge, I'll try to stay under the radar as it were👍

    No probs

    Yes the fly more combo is worth the extra, just having the spare batteries etc....

    As of Jan you still need to license the mini 2 due to the quality of the camera.  You might also need insurance for commercial use.

    With the venue being on private land you would still need some form of permission be that via the club or land owner

  9. Not that I am an experienced drone pilot but do own a Mini 2 for personal use.  You need to look at the flight restrcitions the rules change once you get over 249g (Class 0), you will need an operator license (£9 a year) and a flighers license (free), other things that come into play would be things like other anglers on the lake at the time (in some curcumstances you would need there permission before flying), is the lake on public or private land etc.. , if the pit is hit had by wind is another thing as we fish in much stronger conidtions than would be classed as acceptable to fly in, the list could go on.

    With regards to the drone one with a decent camera and probably some form of polarizing filters which help take the glare off the water would help.

  10. 1 minute ago, framey said:

    Who was it who said if you can smell it the flavour is over the top…

    or words to that effect


    He has a point to a degree the flavour market is a very mixed bag these days, in years gone by the rule of thumb was as quoted but some of the flavours on the market do little or nothing and some hold some attractive qualties.  Alkaline flavours seem to be able to be utilised at higher levels than a good acidic based flavour.  JB's flavours are generally very good quality and are highly concentrated so his low levels that he suggests are warranted.


  11. 3 hours ago, Grodslok said:

    So, predigested fishmeal for solubles, and high protein meal for foodstuff? 


    Making a bait is about balance, ings are mainly broken down into non soluble, soluble and semi soluble.  You can usually make a bait between 15-20% soluble, as the water works it way into the boilie all the good stuff from your liquids and soluble ings is push out into the water and that is what will trigger the carp to investigate, the rest come into play when the bait is eaten.  The key is balance if you aim for around 35-40% protien content is a general mark most people work to.

  12. On 01/05/2021 at 22:37, Grodslok said:

    200g fishmeal

    170g krill meal

    200g semolina

    200g maize flour

    100g chickpea flour

    50g krill or liver hydro

    10g salmon oil

    20g banana or tutti frutti powder (MVDE groundbait flavour powder)

    50g robin red.


    So first up work out your liquids and powders seperately, if i am looking at doing a recipe i will work quantities out based on 1 kilo of powdered mix.

    Looking at the above powders 200g fishmeal is good you can go to 300g if you wanted, the Krill maybe to high depending on how good the krill meal is, as Nick alluded to it can make the bait float if to much is added (some shrimp meals can have the same effect), Semo, Chickpea & Maize are all doing the same job pretty much.  There is not much in the way of soluble ingredients in there look at CSCP 90 if your building a fishmeal most common inclusion is around 10% (or 100g), I would want some form of CLO type product in there and possibly some milks (300g Fishmeal and 50g WPC 80 pretty much cover the daily requirements nutritional wise).  Fruit powders tend to be very potent there usual inclusion is around the 5g mark per kg 20g could well be overkill.  50g RR is fine you might adjust depending how red you would like the finished bait (although RR is not what it was try and located some Kingfisher Red will save you some cash).

    Liquids look fine 50ml Hydro and 10ml of Oil .

    Number of eggs can vary on the mix 6-8 Large Eggs normally serves a kilo of bait

    On 05/05/2021 at 11:42, Grodslok said:

    Are fresh ingredients (for example blitzing some shrimp, or fish offal to a fine mush) any use, or will it just cause boilies to roll poorly and/or rot? 

    They work, the problem is if you add to much the mix will be tricky to roll.


    On 05/05/2021 at 11:42, Grodslok said:

    How much of larger particles can one add before they roll poorly? (Seeing some of you adding nijer seeds, ground nuts, etc). 

    Depending on how course your mix is before adding you could get away between 10-20%  


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