Tree123 Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Weird question What is the heaviest groundbait you can get? As want to start baiting up the river. But its quite deep and balls to break up slowly. Was thinking vitalin or maybe a method mix. I dont really want to be messing round with soils and leams as it all gets a bit complicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcfish Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Tree123 said: Weird question What is the heaviest groundbait you can get? As want to start baiting up the river. But its quite deep and balls to break up slowly. Was thinking vitalin or maybe a method mix. I dont really want to be messing round with soils and leams as it all gets a bit complicated Vitalin mix 50/50 with plain brown crumbs great binder add anything you like. best mixed up has you need it , Tree123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 There used to be one called Meatimix... very heavy... if you want to make the balls get to the bottom without breaking up get yourself a bag of PV1 Collant Binder... a cup of binder to a bag of groundbait will get it down to swims about 6 feet without breaking up... another way is to "Skin up" your groundbait balls by forming them with dry hands first and then wetting your hands and squeezing the balls again to put a slick skin on your groundbait... Tree123 and elmoputney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree123 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Trying to avoid adding any binders or anything like that as want to keep it simple. Will be fishing bread on the hook anyway so crumb and vitalin will work and cheap too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Tree123 said: Trying to avoid adding any binders or anything like that as want to keep it simple. Will be fishing bread on the hook anyway so crumb and vitalin will work and cheap too The best binder to keep it stiff is white breadcrumb. Vitalin and plain white crumb takes its time breaking down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Find yourself some mole hills and add some to your mix or you can get small bags of loam. It needs to be loam for dressing cricket pitches, though mole hill soil is obviously free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 15/05/2020 at 10:05, Tree123 said: Weird question What is the heaviest groundbait you can get? As want to start baiting up the river. But its quite deep and balls to break up slowly. Was thinking vitalin or maybe a method mix. I dont really want to be messing round with soils and leams as it all gets a bit complicated I agree with emmcee tbh, whilst my little mole muck experiment needs more conclusive proof, I think it may work wonders and would be heavy enough to sink, I mixed it with pellet and some groundbait and hydro squid liquid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 Really late reply on this, but have you tried freezing? It may help carry the groundbait down to the bottom? Just an idea though, and would need to test on your venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, dalej2014 said: Really late reply on this, but have you tried freezing? It may help carry the groundbait down to the bottom? Just an idea though, and would need to test on your venue. Frozen groundbait due to ice particles within being lighter than water often floats😉 The annoyance when I have watched floating groundbait drift out of position! dalej2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, salokcinnodrog said: Frozen groundbait due to ice particles within being lighter than water often floats😉 The annoyance when I have watched floating groundbait drift out of position! I did wonder (thinking about ice cubes in spirits), but wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted February 19, 2022 Report Share Posted February 19, 2022 It might seem daft, but I used to mould my groundbait around small stones, give them added weight to help them sink quicker in deep or moving water. dalej2014 and elmoputney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 21 hours ago, ouchthathurt said: It might seem daft, but I used to mould my groundbait around small stones, give them added weight to help them sink quicker in deep or moving water. Throw enough of them you can make your own gravel spot 😏 crusian, dalej2014, B B and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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