serbusfish Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 My dad fished a small match type water on Saturday which is filled with small 3lb - 8lb carp. Normally he catches between 15 - 20 in a 6 hour session, along with missing or losing another 5 - 10, but he only managed get 8 bites/fish on Saturday. There are tench in the water but usually you dont catch them because the carp get to your bait first, but guess what, he caught one on saturday. Another example, there is another place that I suppose classes as a commerical which is full of carp between 4lb - 10lb+. I have personally had 25 out whilst my dad had 33 in a session, but my dads friend went the other day and only had 2 fish. Basically I was wondering if anyone knew why the fish might have stopped biting at the moment? As far as I can tell the weather hasnt changed much over the last few weeks to have such a dramatic affect on bite rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I reckon Carpmachine will have an explanation for you when he sees this . Rightly or wrongly he has touched on the subject a couple of times recently ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowning Maggot Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 The weather has changed allot though.... Look how cold at night and in the mornings it is compared to last month :think: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androoooo Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Separate to your question, you're Derby way aren't you? Guessing from the lakes you've mentioned previous. Have you fished allestree park lake? I've just seen it somewhere else. Looks like it holds some nice Carp. By the looks of them, I'm guessing clearish water which helps finding them. [emoji6] Edited September 24, 2014 by androoooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyborx Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 went to the worlds easiest lake today. its been reported that if you inadvertantly leave your net in the water, when you lift it out there is a fish in it. I BLANKED :o go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 My club lake hasn't fished that we'll for a couple of weeks now and one thing I've noticed on the 4 or 5 times I've been down there in that time is how calm the water is as there hasn't even been a breeze down this way for a while now, could this have an effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraserking Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 The temperature has dropped quite a bit and the wind has picked up too, certainly in SW London. September is usually a good fishing month, but I wonder if the very hot summer has meant the dip is quite noticable for fish. It sounds like everyone is experiencing late october fishing, when bites can be hard to come by. I haven't checked the air pressure recently, but that may hold an explanantion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 The temperature has dropped quite a bit and the wind has picked up too, certainly in SW London. September is usually a good fishing month, but I wonder if the very hot summer has meant the dip is quite noticable for fish. It sounds like everyone is experiencing late october fishing, when bites can be hard to come by. I haven't checked the air pressure recently, but that may hold an explanantion! Would air pressure have more of an affect on lakes that hold more depth than the shallower lakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Air pressure is/has been 1016-1020 here for a while which is still quite high but i think the cold north westerly we have had on & off is more likely the problem here . Weather forecast predicts a new south westerly in the morning which is more promising . And warmer too Edited September 24, 2014 by newmarket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Air pressure is/has been 1016-1020 here for a while which is still quite high but i think the cold north westerly we have had on & off is more likely the problem here . Weather forecast predicts a new south westerly in the morning which is more promising . And warmer too Tim I am not far from you and can't remember there being any sort of wind over the last couple of weeks, as far as air pressure goes I am under the impression that high pressure would affect the carps swim bladder and force them to go higher up in the water, but surely if the lake was a only a couple of feet deep it would not have that much of an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Tim I am not far from you and can't remember there being any sort of wind over the last couple of weeks, as far as air pressure goes I am under the impression that high pressure would affect the carps swim bladder and force them to go higher up in the water, but surely if the lake was a only a couple of feet deep it would not have that much of an impact. No wind mate ? Its been like Chicago this side of the river mate for about a week now . Blowing straight into my bivvy since yesterday too .... Bludy freezin' it was . Having said that its died down now . Dunno about the shallow water muft , theres not really anywhere fir em to go is there ? Maybe it puts em off the feed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 No wind mate ? Its been like Chicago this side of the river mate for about a week now . Blowing straight into my bivvy since yesterday too .... Bludy freezin' it was . Having said that its died down now . Dunno about the shallow water muft , theres not really anywhere fir em to go is there ? Maybe it puts em off the feed ? My office is in Essex mate and I can't recall any sort of wind there either over the last couple of weeks,so we either are living in a parallel universe or I've been drinking too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 My office is in Essex mate and I can't recall any sort of wind there either over the last couple of weeks,so we either are living in a parallel universe or I've been drinking too much. Maybe its caused by that big black cloud that follows me about Must be the parallel universe thing . I cant understand it its been really uncomfortable here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albionchez Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I must admit that down here in Sussex the carp have been hard to come by. I have been to three different lakes in the past 2 weeks for a total of just over 100 hours and have caught 5 carp, On one of those waters the fishing is so easy it sometimes gets boring, on Saturday I blanked there. There certainly seems to be something strange happening at the moment. Glad it's not just me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 I must admit that down here in Sussex the carp have been hard to come by. I have been to three different lakes in the past 2 weeks for a total of just over 100 hours and have caught 5 carp, On one of those waters the fishing is so easy it sometimes gets boring, on Saturday I blanked there. There certainly seems to be something strange happening at the moment. Glad it's not just me!! Maybe its just where i fish but if i catch 5 Carp in 100 hours i'm well happy :) albionchez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbusfish Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Well at least im not the only one having problems... i'm going fishing tomorrow anyway so I will report back how I get on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Went out yesterday. Lovely day. A few spits and spots of rain but otherwise it was what I would have described as the "perfect" day for fishing. Not a bleep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albionchez Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Lol, yeah 5 fish in 100 hours on some lakes is fine but two of the waters I fished in that time are usually quite prolific. I would usually expect to catch at least 10 in a day session on one of the lakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jontain Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 There has been no substantial amount of rain here lately so have been wondering if it's down to low oxygen in the water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well how about this . One of the lakes on the complex where i fish has had a fish kill . At least 16 20lb+ fish have gone belly up . Its very heavily weeded , has now had a load of lime slung in and there are at least 2 windmill type aerators installed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealjt Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Now this is why I love this forum! I've had exactly the same questions swirling around. I'm in suffolk and my regular lake was going crazy literally everyone catching then it went dead... I take it personally as it was when I managed to go that the owner told me nothing out for a couple of days!! I've noticed loads on insects suddenly appearing, especially daddy's.. I know it's the right time for them but wondered if Ol Mr carpy has been feeding up on larve and bugs and more difficult to catch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I was just about to ask the question - " where are the Carp , still in shallowish water , or have they started to slide off to the deeper water , because I can't seem to find them , or if they are where I have cast they are not blinking biting ? " , when I saw this thread . I can't remember who suggested it ( Newmarket ? ) , but 2 out of 3 of my last sessions were with a Northerly breeze , so when what wind there was swung around to the South I thought " this is it " - it wasn't . Usually after a hot , windless August , September brings big South Westerlys that oxgenate the water and shake things up , but apart from Newmarket in " Chicago " ( that'll teach him to live in Essex ! ) I don't remember any big winds . I guess that although it's unseasonably hot , the fish know it's Autumn because of the reduced daylight hours , and so are starting to slow down / stopped dead ! . It's very helpful to learn that I am not alone in my struggles to get a bite , at least it has stopped me fiddling unecessarily with my rig and / or change my bait . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbusfish Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Went fishing on Thursday for silvers, had 12 in total, mostly bream, a roach and a perch. Dad also had about 12. We went again on Sunday to a 'commercial', I had 12 carp and a gudgeon, and he had 14 carp. There was a match on this lake though so I guess it is to be expected that our catch rate was down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I was just about to ask the question - " where are the Carp , still in shallowish water , or have they started to slide off to the deeper water , because I can't seem to find them , or if they are where I have cast they are not blinking biting ? " , when I saw this thread . I can't remember who suggested it ( Newmarket ? ) , but 2 out of 3 of my last sessions were with a Northerly breeze , so when what wind there was swung around to the South I thought " this is it " - it wasn't . Usually after a hot , windless August , September brings big South Westerlys that oxgenate the water and shake things up , but apart from Newmarket in " Chicago " ( that'll teach him to live in Essex ! ) I don't remember any big winds . I guess that although it's unseasonably hot , the fish know it's Autumn because of the reduced daylight hours , and so are starting to slow down / stopped dead ! . It's very helpful to learn that I am not alone in my struggles to get a bite , at least it has stopped me fiddling unecessarily with my rig and / or change my bait . Im always on the lookout for a NEW south westerley when im fishing mate and it neednt be a strong one either they are SO much warmer than even a southerly .Autumn is usually munch time matey , they are like squirrels storing it away for the long cold winter so if they normally like plenty of bait then give it to em Edited September 29, 2014 by newmarket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carphunter1952 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 After a huge fish kill (80%of seriously over stocked lake) water oxygenated.. Left to settle.. but remaining fish not biting at all.. We've had heavy rain high winds and now quite a drop in temperature I'm wondering if they will ever bite again any one anything constructive to advise please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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