ouchthathurt Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Guilty Guilty as charged... Im not as bad as getting the ruler out but i can happily measure by eye - the end presentation must be neat and tidy, if i'm not 100% happy, its binned immediatley. I have my favourite rigs, but also have those i dont like. The "chod" for instance, not a fan!! Phil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnplumb Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Let's face it if your rigs are not spot on your wasting your time . Anyone who isn't a bit OCD over them is set to fail. I wonder how many people neglect to check rigs and concentrate over getting other things right and end up fishing in the perfect spot with every thing pinned down with a rig that just won't work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Terrible rigs with blunt hooks....but my rod tips are always level, and reel handles all line up! dalthegooner, newmarket, nealjt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalthegooner Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Terrible rigs with blunt hooks....but my rod tips are always level, and reel handles all line up! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Terrible rigs with blunt hooks....but my rod tips are always level, and reel handles all line up! Would expect nothing less mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Does this not work then??? Whats all this about changing hooks?? Seems a bit wasteful to me... Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Close up of my bottom bait rig, curve shank size 4 hook on braid hooklink using blowback principle. Note the darkness of the braid? This is lead putty rubbed into braid and excess removed. I like a pretty long hair. Bait is 15mm fishmeal/robin red boilie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Here's some I've been using for a while now. Edited April 7, 2014 by hawkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Here's a bit better photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I dont measure my rigs, but I must admit (after asking the question...) that my knots, overall presentation is bonkers tidy. I simply will not allow stray strands, messy knots etc. My tackle bag is another matter lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ih jesus!! My rigs have to be 100% spot on; but my tackle box?? Er.... Lets just say it could do with a visit from the cleaning fairies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanksalot Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Terrible rigs with blunt hooks....but my rod tips are always level, and reel handles all line up! He's not joking folks, found this pic of him nealjt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Photo copy of cr##py carpers.com all rights reserved. To place an order for the "karp-level" (the real spirit in angling) call 0-1 2-1 do one and this excusive piece of carp fishing equipment can be yours... The karp level only £69,99p rrp (limited editions signed by an essex wide boy with a quiff and polo shirt will cost £99.99 only 10,000 of the deluxe levels will be available to those on a first come first served basis. Stitch em and legget tackle specialists have the "karp-level" on offer at £39.99p to the first 100 buyers. To complement the set stitch em and legget will throw in the "karp kruncher" a 2lb mallet for getting those pesky polished stainless onto hard banks... Or B&Q sell them for a fiver, but there are no pictures of a carp on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Here's a bit better photo. Blimey that little lot puts the fear of christ into me , lord knows what the carp think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Photo copy of cr##py carpers.com all rights reserved. To place an order for the "karp-level" (the real spirit in angling) call 0-1 2-1 do one and this excusive piece of carp fishing equipment can be yours... The karp level only £69,99p rrp (limited editions signed by an essex wide boy with a quiff and polo shirt will cost £99.99 only 10,000 of the deluxe levels will be available to those on a first come first served basis. Stitch em and legget tackle specialists have the "karp-level" on offer at £39.99p to the first 100 buyers. To complement the set stitch em and legget will throw in the "karp kruncher" a 2lb mallet for getting those pesky polished stainless onto hard banks... Or B&Q sell them for a fiver, but there are no pictures of a carp on it... Only good if it came in prolite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Blimey that little lot puts the fear of christ into me , lord knows what the carp think They do look scary close up lol. I mainly use the flouro combi if I intend leaving a trap out for a longish period. The middle is for a snowman or double bait for when the fish are feeding/ digging amongst the silt. Although I've put a chod in the picture, I hardly use it tbh. newmarket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanksalot Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Maybe these guys should be reading this thread There are no words i can post http://www.fish-on-friday.com/2013/07/death-rig-found-at-popular-carp-fishery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Maybe these guys should be reading this thread There are no words i can post http://www.fish-on-friday.com/2013/07/death-rig-found-at-popular-carp-fishery/ Whoever that belongs to needs stringing up by the danglies with it. Utterly discusting. Edited April 8, 2014 by nigewoodcock Swearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 They do look scary close up lol. I mainly use the flouro combi if I intend leaving a trap out for a longish period. The middle is for a snowman or double bait for when the fish are feeding/ digging amongst the silt. Although I've put a chod in the picture, I hardly use it tbh. I'm sure they do the trick for ya mate , when i first saw 'em i thought it was something out of a terminator movie tbh Im a firm believer in keeping it as simple as possible even if it is mostly because i'm lazy lol . The most complicated rig you see me using is a bit of fluro tied to a piece of braid . Excluding the ready made choddies i buy of course hawkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalthegooner Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Maybe these guys should be reading this thread There are no words i can post http://www.fish-on-friday.com/2013/07/death-rig-found-at-popular-carp-fishery/ Pic from the link that Jay posted Words just fail me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) I'm sure they do the trick for ya mate , when i first saw 'em i thought it was something out of a terminator movie tbh Im a firm believer in keeping it as simple as possible even if it is mostly because i'm lazy lol . The most complicated rig you see me using is a bit of fluro tied to a piece of braid . Excluding the ready made choddies i buy of course I'm also a believer in keeping things simple when possible. Sometimes though when setting a 'trap' you have to be rest assured that if it gets tampered with , it's still fishing for you. Through most of my carp angling, I've angled on silted up meres (27 yrs) and for a fair bit of that time I used rigs fishing in the silt, 'where the food is' . It's so easy for your hook to foul up and then your sitting there unbeknowing what condition the hooking arrangement is in. Many a time I've watched carp bubbling over my bait and not had a bleep, I've wound in, recast to the same spot and had a take within the same feeding spell. I prefer bottom baits than pop ups when fishing in silt and if I'm fishing in daylight where I can watch for activity, I will happily use them. When I use them at night and I get unexplained bleeps, I tend to give it 30 min, then I feel like I need to wind in and re cast and in most cases I will. That's where stiff rigs with pop ups are effective from a re-setting perspective, along with the other obvious advantages. Edited April 8, 2014 by hawkman newmarket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 A delightful pic of my tackle box, its 2sided tool box i use, sorry no pictures of carp adorn my tackle box. The other side. all very chaotic but it works for me. I mainly use helicopter rigs, as i use leadcore often (have for 14+yrs) and think the helicopter rig is safest. basic helicopter rig arrangement with spliced loop. If i get snapped off then the hooklink will slide away like this. you may note thati dont have any tubing/shrink tube on the leadcore to temporarily affix the top bead in place, nor is it altered or doctored in any way, for instance, not threading the bead on sideways! There is nothing in which to impede the movement of the top bead if required. the 100% most important most imperative thing is that the bead and hooklink swivel ( with big bore ring) must be able to pass over the spliced loop like this. then the 'core with lead attached is now seperate to the hooklink. hawkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Looking through some of these threads a lot of the hairs on the rigs are quite short..?? What are peoples thoughts on hair lengths? My hairs for my bottom baits have always been on the long side this is a size 4 curve shank on blowback rig and braided hooklink for a 14-15mm bait. this is same rig with bait attached although something is lost in the photo, it looks shorter now?!?! I think a longer hair encourages the hook to turn and prick in the lip better, i think also as it is not so closely linked to the bait, it is more "unstable" during ejection. I also think it is something different at the majority seem to fish far shorter hairs. I could get two baits on a bottom bait hair that is designed for one bait. However i think with pop ups, a shorter hair is more effective. What do others think? ouchthathurt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Perry Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 what is soft ghost like? Better than IQ2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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