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The tadpole set up is as safe if not much safer than a normal inline as the bore of the lead is bigger, as the original insert is removed, you can use the tadpole set up with the fox cog leads also if you wish, basically the lead over the ridge acts kind of like a shocker set up where it will give you a bolt effect and then discharge easily, I can't express enough I wouldn't use if the lead isnt able to discharge

I probably should just do this tbh, I havent properly yet, just done a few swims as I've fished them but maybe I will, wouldn't hurt to do this one day I am off next week, and I do agree would save time, I only get to fish an overnighter usually so banging out rakes amd leads all over the shop won't be helping my chances that much ☺️ Its a funny lake really 25 acres but split into sections, I've got some spots all over the snaggy island half I've fished nearly all of those and found something, but the open bit I've not really worked out yet, another 3 or 4 swims and I might have enough to work with I think, In hindsight though I wish I had done it earlier when the weed wasn't so bad Cheers 👍

The tadpole set up shouldn't detach unless you get a take think about it that ridge will be pulled right Into the lead when casting from the weight of the lead and will only come out when the rig is pulled, if I don't get a take they usually don't detach, I have caught about 15 carp and some tench this year using this set up so I am pretty confident it works as I want it too 👍

No rush still plenty of nice ones to catch yet, and I think after last year I would take 3 fish from my target water, but wouldn't mind if I got to double figures with a 30lber included in that lot 😂

I caught one on my first session on a spot that I had to fish over lily pads that hadn't come up, I had to get it Bob on otherwise it wouldnt want to return, wasn't so far out though furthest I've had to fish here so far was just over 80 yards and that took a few goes 😁 it was much easier then though without the pads not sure why more people don't like fishing in winter and early spring 😂 I think when I know the spot and how it should be, I find I won't be happy unless it's right, hopefully I can do a recce trip next week as I am on holiday and see if I can't get something started Thanks for the Input everyone

I have got some spots I know, which have or probably will work at the right time, but I would like to find a few less obvious ones tbh, I will keep looking for those and hopefully find one soon amongst the weed I just want to also find the fish near those also, I seem to be able to find the spots and not the fish, or the fish and not the spots, it will come just needs some more working out, just need that moment when it all comes together, I'm enjoying trying anyway, I just quite like being there tbh, I might regret being too prolific 😁 I could be happy there for a while yet I think it's a nice place to chill out 😎

I have been watching cypography, the last couple of weeks, some really good stuff on there, and most tend to back up what you and emmcee have been telling me, I watched the elliot grey one where he fished Sandhurst and had a field day, but the morale of the story was he took his time and found the spots, didn't stop until he was 100% sure they were right, I certainly didn't do that right this week, I thought raking was all I needed lol, it wasn't, I also thought back to the windy one where I couldn't find a spot, I can forgive myself for that it wasn't easy Conditions but emmcee said there is nothing wrong with casting 100 times to find a spot, and that's what I need to keep doing, as elliot said they will be there somewhere 😁 I don't think it will hurt to have a paddle in the boat though might be interesting to have a look see what it's like out in the pond because it looks pretty weedy all over from the bank

Well that's alright then because I haven't been doing it that right lately Surely it can only help 😂

Turns out you can sort of 😁

I'm not going back to the 70's 😂 Unless Can you get Camo flares? 🤔🤔🤔🤔😏

Oh good I'm not frazzled enough already 😂

Well nothing happened annoyingly, once I had done all the raking I didn't see another carp 😭 It was another gamble and another lesson learnt, flip me its hard to find a decent spot on that big lake lol, I guess I found a couple of places those sneaky ones hide though so it isn't a total waste, need to do some hard graft now to get some spots rocking I think, and also some mobile margin fishing, just need some rudd proof bait cos they are a nightmare, they destroyed my pigeon food in minutes, will be great for the kids but a right pain for me 😂 6th blank on the trot now I think I got lucky my first 2 sessions on there 🙄 I'm building up to another one though and it's nice to be there, just got to keep adding bits to the puzzle, Hopefully getting out in the boat will give me some fresh ideas 🤔💡💡💡💡

This is the tadpole bag insert, I just use a std size 8 bank tackle ring swivel with it, 9/10 the lead discharges before the swivel, I did try a few but this one was the best I found, it just works everytime

Have a look at the fox tadpole insert set up, perfect for inlines and PVA bags, they have a ridge on them so initially they stay on, but will easily detach when playing a fish so they are safe to use, the swivel always stays put btw the lead detaches from the insert, I use fox leads with these haven't tried Korda inlines so may be worth checking they fit, you also have to remove the original insert 👍

You could tie 4 identical leads onto the end of the tips, whichever flexed least is the 3 1/4lb 👍in theory anyway 😂

Well the mobile approach didn't really end up happening, I spent a long while walking round and chatting, then found a few in the weed bed, it did need raking though may have spooked them but, there have been tench, bream rudd by the tonne rolling like they got the cream so I'm hopeful the big ones will return, so many rudd, I think they may be eating all the particles, but as they are new spots I am having to tolerate gatecrashers and riff raff for now 😂 Its going to be savage if I do get a take in this one, I'm sleeping in my shoes tonight, no time for footwear fluffs

Cheers guys, good luck commonly, 👍 I'm like man at mountain warehouse today, tactical t shirt, Camo shorts and hat all from MW, hopefully I will get to be a model 😁

Not quite the early start I had planned, was way too hot last night, slept so badly, just couldn't settle and I was knackered, had a couple of teas and fed the kids, got my kit out, just got to load it and get sorted, then wake the misses up and go aiming for a 9am arrival now, she will be happier with a small lie in though, 👍😁 I've got my Barrow and I'm ready to roam for a bit, probably until the handle finally snaps at least 😁

I think I need to see a pic to completely understand what you are thinking, I don't like the sound of the hooklink being fixed off the side of the lead though, but I could be misunderstanding what you mean 🤔😁

It depends on the fish and if they get into there, with orange corner, are there spots people would usually fish to and that's why the margins are ignored?

My best pre baiting campaign was in a little forgotten back bay with an overflow pipe, chucked in a couple of handfuls every other day on 2 spots one near the pipe, one down the side near a Bush about a rod length out after 2 weeks they were getting there before me 👍 Well worth the effort at times, I caught 5 fish to 26lb that day, You could make it a hit if no one sees you, 👍

Might be worth pre-baiting the margins a bit if you can especially if they are being neglected and you will be left alone in that swim

I recently had a look at some shimano tx2s whilst browsing in a shop and they were nice rods, I would go and have a look at some if you can what's right for one isn't always right for another

Also if everyone is launching lines all over the shop keep all your lines tucked away then your swim may become a safe haven away from the crowds 👍

Never ignore the margins mate, lots of my best fish have come just off the rod tips, nice slack lines,all pinned down, if no one is looking I may rake a couple of spots and have a go myself this weekend, there is usually a nice option for it somewhere and like you both have said they are getting massively overlooked I think 👍