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I feel like I've heard that story before somewhere. Could you find out what it was and what level please 😂

Thanks Nick what I meant when I asked was what % would I need when adding to my basemix to make a matching pop up? I know it's not going to be exact and basemix dependant I was just looking to see if I could make a food bait pop up with it. AI isn't perfect but it can be a good tool, I've made loads of basemixes from scratch with it just for fun and I would be happy using some of them.

Do you think 10% added to 90% basemix would be enough make a hookbait buoyant though? Or you do you think that means max inclusion alongside other ingredients? I can't help thinking if you could make match the hatch pop ups with 10% everyone would use that tbh.

Yeah I think with egg albumen it would have made them less soluble and firmer but yeah I've learnt I'm not going to bother with cork dust,the AA Baits wafter mix seems pretty good so will use that if I need bright or alternate wafters but tbh i will probably just add some pop up mix next time to my basemix to make wafters. Keep it simple and all that. Is 50% sodium caseinate not too high? I just used Copilot and it recommented 20% max? I know it's AI but it does seem quite useful for stuff like this? I know it also might be wrong though 😂

Maybe keep at least one on a yellow all year then, is that "the big common" 😍 I do kind of agree with the give them a choice kind of hookbait still though. Maybe just tone it down a bit later on in the year, and go for something similar but different if that makes sense. At times I've done quite well on the brown proper jobs. Something a little different but not greatly. Also I've never been one to use the same hookbait on all 3 rods, so I can't ever be conclusive about it 😂

I think that was his go to for a long time but the underwaters have definately made him question it a bit.But I can't speak for him. Thing is Kev without a camera we probably won't know half the times we get done or a carp won't take a bait. We can only go onthe ones we catch. (or not 😂) so the more you use a bright or match the hatch one the more you will catch on them 😬 Another thing I gleaned from a podcast was to change hookbait colour depending on whether you were targetting a mirror or common. Now when I look at my big common captures they have been on a yellow pop up. Maybe to catch the bigger mirrors I need a match the hatch or duller bait. The theory was that commons are more sight feeders than mirrors. Again Just a theory but I might use more match the hatch type hookbaits this year as I want to catch the big mirrors.

Something else that sticks with me is Elliot Grays description of what he wants his hookbait to achieve and that is to give the fish a choice of whether to take it or not. He makes his hookbaits a blatent pink pop up or wafter and by making it the most clearly visible highest attraction bait in the swim. The fish then has the choice. I can see these pop ups doing the same sort of job.

I've not used them myself, they do seem to catch some decent fish though if you look at the catch reports. Now I am making my own bait I know I will probably get into making up some "specials" with coatings and crusts etc at some point, and can see how the process they use makes them the price they are. They seem well thought out IMO and have learnt it's not usually the bait that is the reason for not catching it's usually location, application and procrastination are the main factors for blanking.

I should talk about my recent failure with pop ups 🤣they looked and smelt nice I wanted to try and make some super buoyant match the hatch type pop ups, so I went with 50/50 mix of base mix and polaris, then added 10% cork granules, my flavour combo was banging btw 5ml scopex, 20 drops each of black pepper and bergamot essential oil. Very happy with that. But they didn't really pop up that well and also after 12 hours in water they went soft like a pellet 🤣 I have since bought some AA Baits super buoyant fishmeal pop up mix and my next batch will use the same flavour combo Do any of you add egg albumen into a pop up mix? I think my last mix needed it but I've gone off cork dust so will just be using the pop up mix next time(although I have read this mix can take up to 30% regular base mix and still pop up so will experiment) Just as an FYI I've now made a couple of mixes of the AA Baits Tropaminamino boilies and now they are dried they are still quite soft and smell like a proper carp catcher, I'm starting to really enjoy the process of baitmaking, need to get set up to upscale it a bit but I'm going to have bait no one else is using and that's exciting to me.

Sounds like it could be a great app. Love the sound of the photo part, I would say I'd test it but I don't get much time to fish or catch enough to make full use of it 🤣

Corus has sold /is selling its bait making set up, I saw it on fb the other day.

Had a little go at a 6 egg mix turned out alright I think, made 1.5kg, didn't use my boilie roller made some 15mm on a table and some pillows from the spare paste. Used my electric caulking gun today that made light work of the dough. That's a bite.

If its been touched by Donald I'm out.

Not sure these are the right size, but they have some to choose from https://johnsonrosstackle.co.uk/1628-rings Either that or email fox direct they might have a spare.

I just know I will end up tinkering all the time so many EO, flavours, powders and potions to try, I did put milk B, butterscotch sweetener and Betaine in them I just think some BP would next level them. My plan was/is find a basemix that works and doesn't cost loads, use plenty and stick with it, the reality is I'm down the rabbit hole and will end up constantly tweaking and playing. Even though I've got 20kg of tropamino I know I want to make a mix from scratch,but if I do well on the tropamino, who knows that's the fun part of this journey.

Co pilot is brilliant for this sort of thing 3 minutes and bang I've got a recipe.

They are still drying now as it's cold in the garage. The scopex comes through a little more each day but will probably make up a little scopex bait spray at some point. Definately more pleased with the wafters this time they should work just fine for my pva bag, I might add some black pepper as i think it's missing something. I have planned to add this previously but forgot to buy some I have gone with 5ml to start with in the hookbaits and thought i might start with 3ml a kilo in the feed baits. As I will be adding plenty of liquid hydro.

There is a fb group called Leney Enthusiasts, according to that I've caught shed loads of them 😂

It wasn't a deliberate choice to add the fishmeal, more a happy accident tbh, I thought I would have enough for a 1 egg mix but it was still like angel delight when the bag run out. So to make something other than a mess I added a handful of basemix😂. I am going to do match the hatch ones, I want the option for once I've got them on the bait. I've got some cork dust for those wafters and will probably use the AA Baits fishmeal pop up mix for the pop ups as people have added 30% basemix to those successfully, I might try 50/50 and add cork dust if required. I don't want to make cork balls What essentially will probably happen is that I will make a load of hookbaits to add to the collection of hookbaits I will probably never use 😂

I just went out to smell them, I mean move them about so they continue dry well. The scopex is strong in the garage. I think they should work well. I'm not selling them though, I barely have time to make my own.

Were they from a time when people would get burnt as a witch for being left handed. 😂

That can't be left hand only can it surely there hasn't been a reel made since bluelabels era tackle that isn't ambidextrous?

Just had a look on their website doesn't seem to be on there. I didn't realise Richworth were still going tbh not seen them in a shop for years.

I've used a few AA Baits products now and they all seem decent so far. The fishmeal tropaminamino base mix smells like a real carp catcher. Adding the fishmeal base mix to the wafter mix made it a much stiffer mix and while I may have lost a little buoyancy from adding it they still waft a bit and will act more naturally than a traditional wafter I think and have a slightly more open texture.

I decided to start making bait for myself recently, now I've got a lot of the bits I needed I thought I would start with some hookbaits. Not perfectly round but good enough 😂 1egg, liquid preserve, 5ml creamy scopex, Betaine, milk B and butterscotch sweetener. Pop ups are mainline polaris dyed yellow and wafters are AA Baits pink wafter mix + a bit of tropamino basemix as I run out of wafter mix whilst mixing. I think the wafters turned out better and actually came out fairly round, both do what are they meant too when attached to a rig so that's good, now air drying and will give them a splash of extra flavour once they are dried,then all I've got to do another time is match the hatch hookbaits and start rolling kilos and kilos of boilies. Don't think I'll buy polaris again though will get some AA Baits pop up mix next time. I've also been using Copilot to make up loads of recipes, I've got 20kg of tropamino basemix to use up first though. But I've started down the rabbit hole.