Yeah for sure @smufter, I'm not slating it, like I say it looks cool, it's just those extra kilos here and there are a big deal to me. The original (the one you have I believe) is quality, it just does my head in when these products are re-released with what to me are disadvantages over the original. The Fox Supa was the worst one.... it started off amazing, 4.5 kg.... they then re-released it with Ventec material (as a result of leaking even through it was the bell caps leaking, not the material) which added 2 kilos, then they released the Ultra which has another skin.... it weighs a ton now. Shame, I loved the original.