chillfactor Posted July 6, 2019 Report Posted July 6, 2019 Deadly 😉 Machali, commonly and snowmanstevo 3 Quote
Machali Posted July 6, 2019 Author Report Posted July 6, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 23:08, chillfactor said: Deadly 😉 Expand Very simple Can i use pop-up for it? Or is better use zig foam? commonly 1 Quote
snowmanstevo Posted July 7, 2019 Report Posted July 7, 2019 Zig foam..... white on top.... dark on bottom....... just as deadly,they can’t help themselves 😉😬😎🎣 commonly, chillfactor and Machali 3 Quote
commonly Posted July 7, 2019 Report Posted July 7, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 23:08, chillfactor said: Deadly 😉 Expand Literally where he's fishing! A polish guy I know said they prefer the smaller carp to eat, is that the same in Portugal Macali? Quote
Machali Posted July 7, 2019 Author Report Posted July 7, 2019 On 07/07/2019 at 08:04, commonly said: Literally where he's fishing! A polish guy I know said they prefer the smaller carp to eat, is that the same in Portugal Macali? Expand I have know idea about it 😕 I believe that is a question of mindset. commonly 1 Quote
Golden Paws Posted July 7, 2019 Report Posted July 7, 2019 Due to the interest of this subject, I've attached a photo of my dry zig mix. Tesco Porridge Oats cost £2.05 for a 2 kg bag and the ground mix is in the ice cream tub. I mix it with some Mainline Zig Soup which at £13.99 for a 4 kg bag is used more sparingly! I got the grinder off the net a while back and think I paid about £25 for it but should pay for itself reasonably quickly. Machali 1 Quote
Machali Posted July 7, 2019 Author Report Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) On 07/07/2019 at 13:55, Golden Paws said: Due to the interest of this subject, I've attached a photo of my dry zig mix. Tesco Porridge Oats cost £2.05 for a 2 kg bag and the ground mix is in the ice cream tub. I mix it with some Mainline Zig Soup which at £13.99 for a 4 kg bag is used more sparingly! I got the grinder off the net a while back and think I paid about £25 for it but should pay for itself reasonably quickly. Expand Thanks! I'll keep it for future my attempts with zigs :) You use it to create a "cloud" of food around the zig right? Edited July 7, 2019 by Machali Quote
Golden Paws Posted July 7, 2019 Report Posted July 7, 2019 Yes, that's the idea. A sloppy mix will stay in the upper layers for quite a while. Keep the area topped up every 5 to 10 minutes to let the fish know where to come. Machali 1 Quote
chillfactor Posted July 7, 2019 Report Posted July 7, 2019 On 07/07/2019 at 01:31, snowmanstevo said: Zig foam..... white on top.... dark on bottom....... just as deadly,they can’t help themselves 😉😬😎🎣 Expand Agree stevo .... black & white is the go to . But that day couldn't get a take so played about with different combos, that little slice of orange did the trick that day , so definitely worth keeping busy & making things happen for anyone just getting into zigs . snowmanstevo, commonly, finchey and 2 others 5 Quote
yonny Posted July 8, 2019 Report Posted July 8, 2019 All colours work in their day but I've found the bigguns always come to plain old black. commonly 1 Quote
elmoputney Posted July 8, 2019 Report Posted July 8, 2019 Do good choice of colours not vary due to water clarity, that's been my general thoughts lately tbh when considering pop ups but I thought black stood out if the fish are looking up to it from below as it's the most contrasting colour to the light from the sky, commonly 1 Quote
chillfactor Posted July 8, 2019 Report Posted July 8, 2019 Black always at the bottom of what ever combo as it would be in shadow & as you point out will silhouette against the sky . The colour change is more to do with matching the hatch on the day. elmoputney and commonly 2 Quote
commonly Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 On 08/07/2019 at 10:18, yonny said: All colours work in their day but I've found the bigguns always come to plain old black. Expand Do you use a zig aligner yonny? If not would you be so keen nd as to let me know your hook arrangement? Quote
yonny Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 On 11/07/2019 at 07:39, commonly said: Do you use a zig aligner yonny? Expand I have used them but found they're no more effective than a standard piece of foam on a hair. I normally tie a bog standard hair rig of 7 turns with a tiny piece of shrink tube over the eye to hold the gape open mate. Little piece of black foam maybe 10 mm in size. Dead easy. snowmanstevo 1 Quote
commonly Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 Size 6? So you just side hook the foam? I found aligners split and didn't seem to sit so well, similarly bands. Quote
snowmanstevo Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 On 11/07/2019 at 12:07, commonly said: Size 6? So you just side hook the foam? I found aligners split and didn't seem to sit so well, similarly bands. Expand I’m the same as Yonny....... tie hair,put foam on put a tiny piece of silicone on thread hook on and thru the silicone have zig tight to the top of the hook and held in place with silicone whip hook on (seven is my lucky number) tiny bit of shrink tube over the eye anti tangle sleeve then tie to swivel........ always done ok for me and by squeezing the foam you can change colours quite easily if one isn’t working commonly and yonny 2 Quote
yonny Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 On 11/07/2019 at 12:07, commonly said: Size 6? So you just side hook the foam? Expand Yes, size 6. No side hooking. Quote
Machali Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Posted July 12, 2019 Thanks you all mates! Now i have some ideas to work with zigs, ready for my first attempt next week :) Unfortunately i can't find a place in Portugal to buy zig foam. I'll have to buy it from Amazon. Fluorocarbon is a good choice to use as hooklink? commonly 1 Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 14:32, Machali said: Thanks you all mates! Now i have some ideas to work with zigs, ready for my first attempt next week Unfortunately i can't find a place in Portugal to buy zig foam. I'll have to buy it from Amazon. Fluorocarbon is a good choice to use as hooklink? Expand I would avoid fluorocarbon as a hooklink because it sinks more and faster than mono, most definitely heavier than water. I would actually use a surface or neutral fishing monofilament like Drennan Double Strength, Drennan Fly Leader. Machali and commonly 1 1 Quote
Machali Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 14:54, salokcinnodrog said: I would avoid fluorocarbon as a hooklink because it sinks more and faster than mono, most definitely heavier than water. I would actually use a surface or neutral fishing monofilament like Drennan Double Strength, Drennan Fly Leader. Expand I thought on fluorocarbon because is "invisible" under water, but it's a sinking line, and i don't want to use zigs in the place of boilies Thanks for your help! I'll do a simple set-up for it. Running lead (between two bead stops) -> swivel -> an anti-tangle sleeve -> hooklink -> size 6 wide-gape hook -> bit of foam. Anything more? commonly 1 Quote
yonny Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 16:39, Machali said: Anything more? Expand If you can get hold of it try Rig Marole Specimon zig/floater hooklink. Very, very good stuff. commonly and Machali 2 Quote
commonly Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 Got that in 10lb, very strong and thin diameter. I'm gutted! got to the lake someone in my usual spot. Went in another spot, fish cruising, 10-11ft deep!! I was expecting the usual 4-5 ft. No zig float, tried long lengths very awkward due to overhangs and lilies, so I'm experimenting with a pike float!! 🤣 🤞I'll have a pic or two to post when I get back Sunday. Machali, snowmanstevo and yonny 3 Quote
elmoputney Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 Couldn't you coil up the zigs a bit and then using some PVA tape or string, tie them up then it melts and rises to the proper depth that may help with the cast crusian, Machali and commonly 2 1 Quote
nigewoodcock Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 14:32, Machali said: Thanks you all mates! Now i have some ideas to work with zigs, ready for my first attempt next week Unfortunately i can't find a place in Portugal to buy zig foam. I'll have to buy it from Amazon. Fluorocarbon is a good choice to use as hooklink? Expand Should be plenty of foam you can use in Portugal. Just think of all those flip flops in the beach shops!!!! Machali and snowmanstevo 1 1 Quote
Machali Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 18:37, commonly said: Got that in 10lb, very strong and thin diameter. I'm gutted! got to the lake someone in my usual spot. Went in another spot, fish cruising, 10-11ft deep!! I was expecting the usual 4-5 ft. No zig float, tried long lengths very awkward due to overhangs and lilies, so I'm experimenting with a pike float!! 🤣 🤞I'll have a pic or two to post when I get back Sunday. Expand Waiting for those photos On 12/07/2019 at 22:24, nigewoodcock said: Should be plenty of foam you can use in Portugal. Just think of all those flip flops in the beach shops!!!! Expand Is the same material? Awesome, i may have 20 stores in my city selling flip flops Quote
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