howsey16 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Please help! After wasting a full spool (a bit of an exaggeration but....) attempting to get the chod rig right, I just cant get the hook point to face down, the hook always seems to lay to the side!!!! I start by whipping round the hook about 10 times and then when i pass the line back through the eye it always kicks out sideways! Iv tried manipulating the line to curve in a certain way but it just doesn't like it! What am i doing wrong? Quote
dalthegooner Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 First question, are you using chod hooks? Secondly, have a look here. You don't need to use Korda's materials, but the instructions are good Quote
ianain Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 I take it your using the knotless knot? If so try fewer turns. The picture is a bit fuzzy, could just be my eyes though, the knot does look a bit messy; have you formed a 'D'? Quote
newmarket Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 I cant do it either howsey . The Gardner & ESP readymades really are excellent :) Quote
nigewoodcock Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 One little tip. The stiff material you use for chod sections has a natural curve to it as it comes off the spool. Use this to your advantage when positioning the hook before you start your turns on the knot less knot? bivvystreet 1 Quote
nigewoodcock Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 If you still can't get the curve right. Hold the tied rig around a round object; a pice of pipe insulation/lag is ideal. Then steam over a kettle for a short while. You can store your rigs like this as well. This will help have an ideal 'bend' to your rig. Mine are almost straight. Just a slight curve. Quote
rosstheangler Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 If you still can't get the curve right. Hold the tied rig around a round object; a pice of pipe insulation/lag is ideal. Then steam over a kettle for a short while. You can store your rigs like this as well. This will help have an ideal 'bend' to your rig. Mine are almost straight. Just a slight curve. Where is the thread you posted with the step by step instructions Nige? Quote
nigewoodcock Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 I'll have a look in a bit. Just got to go and muck the horses out and put the beds down. Quote
hawkman Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Are you using chod filament? As flourocarbon alone has a natural curve that is hard to manipulate without steaming. I would recommend ESP bristle filament in 20lb if you are new to tying chods. It's easy to work with and also very good. Quote
howsey16 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Posted February 2, 2015 Im currently using JRC stiff fluorocarbon. i was actually looking at the ESP bristle filament earlier on ebay. Might invest in some. Im not sure about the hook being a chod hook but it has a slightly out-turned eye. Gunna try steaming. Il report back. Quote
grangemilky Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 If you use a domhoff knot, you can tie the swivel on first and get it sitting perfect before you tie on the hook. Quote
bivvystreet Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 It's a case of practice and practice more where tying your own chods is concerned. Quote
nigewoodcock Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Where is the thread you posted with the step by step instructions Nige? Can't find the one for the actual chod section but the following contains a good bit of information and ideas from a few members: https://forum.carp.com/topic/14126-chod-chod-chodyy-chod-chods-rant-and-rigs/ rosstheangler 1 Quote
nigewoodcock Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Found it! https://forum.carp.com/topic/17242-alternatives-to-floss-for-baiting-chod-rigs/ rosstheangler 1 Quote
howsey16 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Posted February 3, 2015 UPDATE!!!! Got it! Im using stiff fluoro and after steaming it in the shape i wanted its perfect! Top advice fellow anglers! nealjt 1 Quote
emmcee Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 UPDATE!!!! Got it! Im using stiff fluoro and after steaming it in the shape i wanted its perfect! Top advice fellow anglers! you got it now but if you hadn't i would of suggested the use of korda mouthtrap for your rig material. the best out there in my opinion dalthegooner, rosstheangler and Turnip 3 Quote
howsey16 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Posted February 10, 2015 It must have been a lucky one, since then the hooklength just keeps kinking when tightening the knots and the JRC stiff fluoro is not memory free. Its either Korda Mouthtrap or ESP Bristle for my next purchase......... Quote
cyborx Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 It must have been a lucky one, since then the hooklength just keeps kinking when tightening the knots and the JRC stiff fluoro is not memory free. Its either Korda Mouthtrap or ESP Bristle for my next purchase......... try using a knot that you dont have too much friction when tightening down like a palomar, or use plenty of lubrication. i use KY for lube er spit for lube and plenty of it, also make sure that you put equal tension on the standing and the tag ends. newmarket 1 Quote
grangemilky Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I don't understand how people are using palomar knots with bristle, especially the ESP stuff, that knot must be collosal! Especially when a two turn blood knot will do the same. OP go for mouth trap, it's much better than the esp stuff IMO. Quote
howsey16 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I don't know if its my method of tying Palomar knots but they always look like a screwed up mess no matter how much care I take. I just like the simple blood knot, it is fairly neat and seems to be quite strong. Grinner is by far the neatest I can do but not the simplest! You need about 6ft of tag end! No good for Chodington! Grange have you used both ESP and Korda? Edited February 11, 2015 by howsey16 Quote
eyelburm8 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Terry Hearn does a brilliant video on Youtube. The domhoff knot is one that makes the hook sit right, it just takes a bit of practice.... Quote
stickmix Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 I find this "Easy Snell Knot by NetKnots" to be a little easier to tie. In the video the tag end is cut, don't cut it. At that point place your chosen rig ring, swivel or bait screw on the tag, pass it back through the hook eye, cut and blob. Plenty of practice with ordinary mono, until you get the mechanics right, will help. No matter which knot you choose. Quote
howsey16 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Posted February 23, 2015 I find this to be a little easier to tie. In the video the tag end is cut, don't cut it. At that point place your chosen rig ring, swivel or bait screw on the tag, pass it back through the hook eye, cut and blob. Plenty of practice with ordinary mono, until you get the mechanics right, will help. No matter which knot you choose. That link is dead mate Quote
stickmix Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 That link is dead mate The link seems to be working fine (tested in firefox, chrome and explorer). If anyone else has a problem with the link, please let me know and I will re-post. Quote
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