Turnip

,... OK, I for one will take your view on board, carpmachine.
Now we know your opinion, would it be too much to ask that you leave the thread alone, by way of not commenting again so as those of us which wish to learn have, a) sanctuary, and b) those of us that wish to learn (because we don't know it all) can have a place without ignorance and attention seeking to ask our relevant questions without receiving irrelevant replies.
 
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When the love of my life was alive and just a puppy, my wife and I went to bed and my baby was tucked over with a blanket and left cuddling his 'baby' - a tennis ball that went everywhere with him.
I made the silly mistake of leaving my work-boots in the vicinity of easy access to his gnashers.
When I woke with the alarm at 0400 ready to go off to work - I went into the kitchen to check on my 'boy' and to let him out for a pee before going into the bathroom myself to have a S.S.S and S.
Up the garden he went with his tennis ball - did what he had to do and came back in.
Off he went - zoom - straight into the bedroom - nuzzling the wife to move over a bit and straight under the covers.
Kettle on, ciggie lit and get ready for work.
Now, I am sure that when I took my boots off after the previous days 6 till 2 shift the boots were highly polished, and I'm sure they had a top and did have a top and metal eyes which the lace is thread through?.....well, at approximately 0458 it was noted that the left boot had a lace and one side of the top of the boot, but the right boot only had a lace and was barely recognisable as a boot. 
Never did see the eyelets again, and I can promise you - I looked for weeks, and I mean 'looked'.    
Sadly, my baby is no longer with us after 15 years, but I can honestly say my heart was truly broken the day I had to take him to the vet. Love your dog, 'ammer, and your dog will love you more than her own life.
Anyway - 
If it is any use to you - if your 'baby' starts to get bored, maybe leading to chewing furniture - get yourself 2 pairs of socks - preferably 1 pair of footy socks (but not a 'ammer pair - poor dog would be poorly with indigestion just looking at 'em, let alone putting them anywhere near the mouth)      - now, with the normal socks, over a period of time (depending on how much you sweat), wipe under your armpits with 1 sock and wrap it inside the second 'normal' sock.
Now, repeat using said sock until the socks take on the 'human scent'. When you are satisfied the smell is strong, place inside the footy sock. Now, do the same with the footy sock containing the pair of socks. After time and the smell etc etc,... place inside the last footy sock and tie off nice and tight up to the 3 internal socks. Do a good few knots up the sock and then offer to your dog. She'll instantly take to the scent and her boredom/thought of being alone (for want of trying to explain it differently) will be virtually zero, and your furniture will be saved. She may try to chew the sock, but just keep taking it away from her with a stern 'no', and then offer it her back. Rinse and repeat for as long as nessie-celery, but it wont be for too long.
That gem was given to me by a work colleague who used to train dogs, that when trained; would 'talk' for hours if instructed to do so, and rip your arm off at the same time.
I remembered it, and put it in to practise with my 'baby' quite a few years later, and he never ever chewed any furniture - boots yes, Chippendale, never. (OK, Ikea)
That said - as Adam has mentioned - there is a massive difference between a dog trainer and a trained dog.

As an ex professional dog trainer I will say this:
 
If you were to list out the majority of points of advice in this thread and action them you would possibly ruin your dog for life. If that is a little over dramatic based on the situation it is only because of her breed. A sensitive collie, you definitely would, a lab maybe a little more bomb proof. None of it is wrong as such, just to generic to be given without context. Eg, someone mentioned a clicker. Well you need a very good command of what it is, what it does and why it works for it to work. The amount of people I see using a clicker as a recall command, or to make their dog sit etc etc makes me cringe!
 
I could write you pages of advice and info on dog training, how dogs learn, how various techniques will work/not work and why, but without seeing and working with you and the dog all I would be doing is telling you how to dog train, not how to train your dog, and get the best from her and correct the issues you are having.
 
My advice would be to find a good behaviouralist and invest in one or two sessions with them. Considering you'll be living with your dog for 14 years, and a good trainer will give you real relevant ways to correct your specific issues in one or two hours it would be a good investment.
 
Where are you based? I know trainers up and down the country. If you happen to be local to me I'll do it myself for free.
 
Love your dog, enjoy her, and take advice from those that know, not those that think they know. One or two well trained dogs does not a dog trainer make.
 
Sorry if this post sounds harsh. I don't mean to sound arrogant, Just I know what it takes to get good at this stuff, and it is something that people often take too lightly. The wrong advice can be damaging and you have to live with the consequences.
 
That being said, nealjt's last post is a good one. A behaviour that doesn't get the desired response will change or disappear. apart from the compressed air bit though, which is used as an unconditioned positive punisher, and a correct gauge of reaction and understanding should be gone through before using it. Can be good, can be useless, can be bad. Depends.

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I think it's best I take it to a camera shop.

Ross - the magical number is 40 degrees. Not for all, as the range is between 40 and 60 degrees, but 40 is the starting point.
 
As for Nash, nm - they have just (relatively recently) spent £350'ish thousand on coming in to line with EU guidelines. Somewhere in amongst the vast amount of money will be a pressure cooker or a vacuum bath that doesn't quite get to 40 degrees, I imagine.

They didn't even have their nets over the correct side of the boat - needed a carpenter to tell them how to do it.

That is where you have been going wrong all these years.
It was Peter and Andrew that were the fishermen.
Jesus was a fisher-of-men. Big difference.           

Oh fishing thought you had a problem with Norfolk
 
Nick will be around soon

I don't worry about what they think Turnip, what have the Dutch done for me lately? [emoji9]

It was a very good game. In fact, probably the best England performance I've seen is 10 years. (including the mincers - I mean men)
Now, if only the England men could play with as much commitment and pride as the Lioness' we could do well in the Euro's.
 
The ladies did the Country proud - but you wouldn't think so by reading the Neanderthals on some of the football forums.

To suffer, and witness, a major fish kill must be heart breaking for the fishery owner and all concerned with it.
 
Not just from a fiscal viewpoint, either.
 
Ian

Bilic did OK with Croatia. And he's definitely more creative and attack minded than BFS.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
He'll do well in the Championship

Ross - the magical number is 40 degrees. Not for all, as the range is between 40 and 60 degrees, but 40 is the starting point.
 
As for Nash, nm - they have just (relatively recently) spent £350'ish thousand on coming in to line with EU guidelines. Somewhere in amongst the vast amount of money will be a pressure cooker or a vacuum bath that doesn't quite get to 40 degrees, I imagine.

I only have a limited knowledge but did quite a bit of reading over winter when not fishing. I would think it would have more to do with the bait beginning to be broken down and aminos being freed and being able to be better utilised by the carp (The enzymes are pre-digesting the bait so the carp doesn't need to). That will result in softness especially boilies as the egg protein (binder) is acted upon. If you manage to succesfully incorporate enzymes then you're going to end up with a soft bait and you're not going to be able to fish it on the hook or at least it's unlikely. You'll likely have to feed it as a carpet feed and put something more stable/hard over the top. 
The above may all be wrong though but if others have other thoughts would be good to hear them/be put right.

The enzymes carp use actually work at there best in water temps to high for the fish to live in .
I can see why trying to incorporate enzymes into bait ( if the right ones ) could help with digestion .
but as you say ,if as soon as there cast out the process stops is there any real benefit?
Would not just using soft bait make things more easily digestible? Or say boilies that have been soaking in lake water for 24 hours , soft and swollen?
That's why I think washed out bait can work... its not that's it's washed out but soft & swollen ?

Your probably right Phil, i just find the whole thing fascinating, im intrigued and would like to understand more, not necessarily use it but more for my own knowledge

What you have to remember, and something I read about recently & found very interesting.
Is the enzymes the fish use to brake down food and extract the nutrients only work at a low to satisfactory level in the water temps we have in this country.
Hence why fish grow much bigger in warmer climates.
 
So ask the question, do they actually get all the goodness your trying to supply them in your baits ?

Thats the whole point of this exercise Phil, to simulate the digestion process, enzymes do have a peak working temperature, about 18 degrees I think, but don't quote me on that, you have to check with Frank on that one. The whole ethos of using enzyme rich baits is to assist the break down before Mr carp even gets to the bait, hence baits being kept in warm flasks. The problem is as soon as these bait are submerged in the temperatures we have, the digestion slows and stops, so if you can emulate and assist the break down, bobs your uncle. The whole thinking being it is, if a bait is more easily digested a fish will eat more. This is the reason for looking at certain enzymes, but you have to remember there are a lot, I think enzymes run into their hundreds.
That's what ive gotten from what ive read any way

Your probably right Phil, your certainly right about it being imported from Spain, they even used the same bottles, just stuck another label on it
I would think there would be some fats present as well as sugars (carbs) and a few nutrients. I made them with coke, milk, all sorts, ive even made tiger milk, thats nice
In fact, this will please carpmachine, if it wasn't for boilies or steamies in my case id still be on Tigers, but I like to think I can offer a bit more nutrition, and I like making baits and the whole science about it. And even if I am wrong, at least its down on here to show others and hopefully steer others in the right direction

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We need to find that man and lock him up.

You are not neanderlithic, Tim.
Being an 'ammer, your arms are longer. :razz: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I was watching a fishing programme the other day and a good point was made about over doing the angle and length and actually ending up with a situation where the gape is closed up so much there is little chance of the hook catching in the mouth .
Thought it was a valid observation for those new to using shrink tube .

Ahhhh there you are

'You could use pebbles?'
 
 
Fred and Wilma might have something to say about that.