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just out of curiosity nick what was the altenative leader you once printed a picture of on another thread.if i recall it looked like leadcore but was safer in your eyes.not sure if ive explained it enough for it to jog your memory of it.

if you want to use the chod rig mate then go ahead,ive been a convert for 2 seasons now and my catch rate has without doubt gone up.99% of my fish have been nailed 1inch to 2inches back in the mouth bang centre with 2 hook pulls from over 50 fish.this weekend i done a few nights on my spring water which has some low weed but the rest is mainly a sandy bottom where the lead plugs in big style.i had 3 rods out all on the sand 1 chod rig with 6ft of esp sand coloured leadcore and 2 with fluro carbon straight to lead clip and balanced baits on fluro/combi links.2 fish both on the chod."chods for nods" so what if im a noddy then so be it and like you have said why do some of our best anglers use it if its as dangerous and as hopeless as it is made out to be.dont get me wrong in the wrong hands and tied incorrectly it WILL be a death rig which no one wants.ive been carp fishing about 20yrs now and boy do i wish i new about that rig from day 1. oh and nick is that patternoster rig not from the original korda rig guide? the same korda that you and most other anglers on here slate and here you are publicising them tut tut

i fished there for the last 6 seasons,i got there gold card last year and im now on black swan.what do you want to know mate

there as bad as each other mate,bivvy cities mate the both of them.what size of fish are you after and what type of water?easy,difficult or hard etc

pingewood is another circus mate just so you know,i dont know too much about englefield

mill lane has turned into some what of a circus(very busy).its got some good fish in there though.its done a fifty and there are some 4 or 5 40s to back that up.reading angling club is a good club with quite a few waters to go at.

as above,kryston heavy metal for me.one of the first out there and in my opinion the best

not being rude but i think you may struggle to get anglers to part with their tackle,especially to,well total strangers,good luck though.but as the "dragons" say, sorry im out

take a look at atomic tackle.they do drop off inline leads,they have a slot in them and they come off everytime.

try taking a look at rodney meadow or mayfields both boyer leisure.not club lakes but syndicates but both hold good fish,plenty of 20's,a few 30's and rodney has a mid 40 as well.failing that farnham angling ass' has a wide variety of waters.there is also harrow angling society who have lakes in and around the colne valley,not to far from you, as does uxbridge rovers angling ass'.another couple of lakes worth a look are rickmansworth aquadrome,thorney weir met lakes and inter type angling club

Atomic tackles jelly-wire is good with the figure of 8 loop knot.you can even blob the tag end.

rigs stay the same,total change of bait though,which has been going in now for the past 6 weeks.the only change to tackle is a lighter mainline as the weed dies off

when it comes to coated braid then my first choice is Atomic Tackles "jellywire" after that then kryston coated braids would be my next choice

atomic chodda hook in size 6 with korda mouthtrap in 25lb,jobs a good un

if your still confused then why dont you look on youtube or the like and type in jim shelley/chod and see how he ties it,mr shelley is not everyones cup of tea but when it comes to fishing the chod he is the chodfather.

when i find it necessary to use the chod i always make sure that the bottom bead(the one nearest the lead)is 12inches away from the lead.and i make sure that the bead cannot slip down.i have used leads from 1oz-3.5oz and never had a problem

ive decided to give it ago this year,i missed the first 2 weeks of the season which by the sound of things were throwing fish out left,right and center.as has been said a very busy lake with public,dogs(not well trained at that),boats,wind surfers,sail boats,speed boats(that wipe out all 3 rods if your not carefull) oh yeah and 1 or 2 very special carp (though not been caught to my knowledge,but seen in the water by a few anglers)amongst a few hundred others.the fish are very mobile and travelling light is a must for the moves you have to make to keep on them,and on a lake of some 80-90acres its not easy

ive used the rig a few times and have caught using the rig with an atomic chodda hook,the fact that the eye is out turned i feel makes the hook point take hold better than a curve shanked hook anyway

the hooks i use for my chods are atomic chodda hooks in size 6,or for a beaked point hook i use jrc mbt4 in size 4.ive used the latter hook all spring,dropping 1 fish out of 34 takes in a relatively weedy water.though i have heard these hooks are to be discontinued so if you want some get in there quickly

for me personally it all depends on what bottom im fishing over,from 6 inches of weed etc upwards then its chod all the way for me.less than that then i will fish a conventional pop up rig

is this the club that runs vinnetrow

my mate mark part owns/runs freedom lakes with a french fish farmer,get in touch with him and im sure he will be able to help you/advise you

Good replie mate but i started chod fishing coping Jim's style years ago fishing light leads 1-1.5oz and lengths of leadcore upto 10ft long (yes you've read it right lads) i fished the same setup as jim exsplained to me and found it had advantages and disadvantages, the reason behind using such a long length of leadcore is its the lenght and weight of the leadcore that hooks the fish not the lead as it the last thing to come into play. I don't and never will use such a long lenght of leadcore again for certain reasons as it very difficult to cast it out and be target with such a long length and i think its unsafe and careless to do so. However like you i will contiune to use leadcore upto 4-6ft depending on the situation or flourocarbon straight through again depending on the situation im faced with.. It seems to me nearly everyone on this forum is againest the use of leadcore for 1 reason or another. I think to many people are to quick to jump on the band wagon without having any knowledge of the product. So i put this to you all .... If its that bad Magazines would'nt feature it. Every Top well known angler thats in the public eye would be againest it. And tackle companies would'nt produce it.... Tell me why?????? I don't mean to get peoples backs ups and i dont mean to be a bore.. not only that but look at the anglers that use leadcore,some people say shelley is a fish at all costs angler,never experienced that with him myself,terry hearn,ian chillcot to name just a couple.chillcot is all for carp welfare as we know with ECHO so why would he use something that is "so harmful to fish"

if you are struggling that much you can always buy them ready tied

i run my fingers up and down the rig really fast until i can feel it literally burning my fingers this makes the mouth trap pliable,i then make the curve while its warm.failing that get a gardener mini rig bin,put your rig in iy and steam them it curves up spot on