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hi everyone, im off to bluewater lakes next month and just wondered if anyone from here has been as its my first time there. if so, any tips regarding how much bait to take etc

sorry but your point about not getting the same deal on a bulk buying bait manufacturers is a little off the mark im afraid . ive managed to source where a fair number of bait firms get their milk proteins and i can get a 20kg sack of casein for just over £200 and that includes postage. i think it works out about £8-70/kg, now when the bait firms are charging about £15-00/kg thats a very good deal. the more sacks you buy obviously the less it is. i had a price list sent through from them and if you buy a pallet of sacks then it works out to be £8-35/kg, no doubt this is how most bait manufacturers buy there ingredients. it took me a fair few hours of searching on the net and a few phone calls but all worth while in the end. well if you make alot of homemade bait that is. and at that price you can up the milk protein content of your bait and it wont break the bank Yes and No If you buy a sack of bait ingredients from a bait company don't forget that they won't sell it to you for the same price that they are able to get it for, so the price may be elevated, or not as cheap as you could possibly get it from the original supplier. Yet because the bait company is probably buying more than you can from the original supplier they are likely to get a better discount or rebate from them. In fact there is a very good example of this in that many of the Birdfoods that you can buy from Sainsburys are originally from John E Haiths. If you buy from Sainsbury's the price is definitely higher than you would be able to get it for from Haiths, yet if you bought it from Haiths you would not be paying the same as what Sainsbury's do. I would far rather buy any ingredient with a very low price, or at a discount, yet I can't justify in many cases buying a pallet of milk protein as it simply wouldn't keep, I don't have the storage space or cold store facilities. That pallet would likely take me a lifetime to use, and would likely have gone rancid by the time I could eventually use it all up. dont get me wrong nick,i dont buy pallets of milk proteins but £200 for a sack is too good to miss out on. they have a shelf life of around 18months if stored correctly. that said i use a sack of casein in a season, infact alot of the ingredients out there have good shelf lives though once mixed to form the base mix then the shelf life is alot less

sorry but your point about not getting the same deal on a bulk buying bait manufacturers is a little off the mark im afraid . ive managed to source where a fair number of bait firms get their milk proteins and i can get a 20kg sack of casein for just over £200 and that includes postage. i think it works out about £8-70/kg, now when the bait firms are charging about £15-00/kg thats a very good deal. the more sacks you buy obviously the less it is. i had a price list sent through from them and if you buy a pallet of sacks then it works out to be £8-35/kg, no doubt this is how most bait manufacturers buy there ingredients. it took me a fair few hours of searching on the net and a few phone calls but all worth while in the end. well if you make alot of homemade bait that is. and at that price you can up the milk protein content of your bait and it wont break the bank

£16 for 500ml of minamino . i got 5ltrs for £70 back in the spring. and before you ask it is the pukka gear straight from the manufacturer .

agreed this is a good read. i brought this book as i was fishing rodney meadow at the time and he has a chapter dedicated to there. though reading through the book i came across a couple of gems which i use in my angling nowadays. some good bait advice in there

your right you cant beat a good book about carp fishing. not wanting to be controversial though, but sadly alot of what we read is not always exactly how it happened. ive read a fair number of books and have had the pleasure to fish along side a number of the authors and their friends and its quite eye opening as to the real happenings around some of the captures of certain fish. i wish they would just write it as it happened. if the angler was drunk,stoned, "guesting", breaking every rule going when they had a certain capture then why dont we hear about it . thats why the best book ive read is micky gray's book " a merry olde dance". what you read is exactly what happened, its warts and all, excellent book.

it may be down to the fact that carp can feed differently from water to water. for instance i have a group permit for a some lakes local to me. the fish are of the same strain the 2 lakes that i fish are no more than 50metres apart. ive been on 1 of the lakes for a few seasons so last year tried the other lake. went on there with the rig thats done me really well on the other lake which was 10 inch of jelly wire,inch stripped back tied to a fox arma point Ls size 6. now the first few fish i caught the hook fell out whilst in the net and then i had a hook pull. i then changed to a korda wide gape size 6 and then never had another hook pull. now this weekend i went back to the old lake for a change and had 3 takes. the first 2 on wide gapes which done me well last year on the 2nd lake were only just hooked so decided to use the fox Ls rig that i used to use on this lake and the 3rd caught on this rig was nailed .

Or simply tied on a weak link at the bottom end, also stops the lead getting too close to the fish during battle. yes mate will do the job as well

My bottom bead is 12inchs from the lead and i find it to be spot on. Also the new gardener c shaped clips will sort the lead getting stuck. They come in 2 ir 3 sizes depending on how heavy your lead is. They are plastic so if the lead gets jammed they break and leave the lead so you can carry on playing the fish

never had a pick up either though lol

as much as the man is hated by people, i would go on you tube to view jim shelleys blogs and you will see how to tie it on there. been tying it his way for the past 3 years and ive never lost a fish on it

id be confident using it on any kind of bottom. not that i do. but if i get on showing fish then that is the first rig i will put out. 0.5-1oz leads,little disturbance and i know im fishing no matter what the bottom.

ive got a parsons jack russell and 10 goldfish. my dog is sadly not a carp dog as she cant sit still for more than 5 minutes

these are the ones ive started using and am well happy with them. and as you say you can set it up so its safe with leadcore.

there's only one maggot rig and thats the mag-aliner, simples

never had a problem with the korda lead clips myself. what i do is when i buy the lead clips and tail rubbers i will push a tail rubber onto every clip all the way down. that way it stretches the tail rubber therefore enabling the lead to eject that much easier .

if you want to match your braid to a silt bottom then what i do is take a piece of rig putty and pull the material through it a few times quite fast. the friction warms the rig putty which leaves a very thin layer on the braid the length of the rig. you then have coloured braid and it will sit very nicely on the deck

I don't agree. Most of my fishing is with size 4s, regardless of bait. same as. I want a big bit of metal to nail'em, regardless the size of hookbait. Size 4's & 5's my favourites. Infact done 1 season using size 2's. They didnt get away;-)

What manor lake do you mean? The essex manor or linear manor?

40lbers are not the be all and end all in carp fishing mate. as long as your enjoying your fishing thats what counts, be it for singles or 40s and 50s. enjoyment is what its all about

depends what your after. if you want to catch a 40 then you got to fish a water with 40s in it, simple as . you say youve got a million to 1 chance, to me thats better than having no chance if you so desperately want a 40 and all the while you got a bait in the water you will always have that chance .if your daunted by the size of coate and the fact that takes maybe few and far between then obviously the other lake is for you. only you can answer your own question not us on here

fox arma point Ls

. that fried my head too. just find the fish and chuck a simple knotless knot rig at them. simples and as for you not wanting to overload your rods with a pva bag and lead your going to have a loaded method feeder, pva mesh bag, bait wrapped in paste. the second part sounds like it would be heavier than a pva bag and lead

so if bryan jarrett told you to jump under a bus would you do that as well

id like to know what the opening post means by heavy weed if i can cast out a 12inch rig and then let it settle on top of the weed then im fishing nothing more than a bit of candy floss .