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That is probably something I should consider more tbh,I guess I will find my own natural rhythm eventually with regard to how many I need to tie but maybe a few extra rechucks is a good idea when fishing like this would certainly seem a good idea to keep the baited area fresh ,and especially after bleeps good thinking and thanks I think I need to find a more aggressive mentality in my own approach 👍

Good points made My plan is to have the mix ready made dry and in the bucket with 6 or so pre made and just inject the liquids in as and when I use them,not too faffy 😁 obviously I know I will use 3 off the bat so will do 3 first in advance to soak up the liquids a bit , then probably just keep one boosted with liquid ready to go, I dont really want to keep too many spares but just to have enough for while I am fishing the session I am on so will just keep stocks at a required level really I've added dynamite shrimp and krill honky groundbait today and some crushed hemp 😁

Thanks I think it isn't a bad starting point, should have ingredients to draw them in I think from above, and make a little cloud of attraction from the off Salmon fry crumb is going in when I get round to getting some, it's on my radar, as a small extra bit 👍 I have also got some GLM, brocacell, clo, fishmeals and other goodies at home so can add those if needs be When you say it won't be cheap, I think the price can be slightly offset by the amount of freebies you use alongside it, as I think if I am looking for a bite at a time I doubt I will use more than a couple of handfuls of boilies over a spot, and I've also decided I might not do a lot of prebaiting this year, as my shifts make it hard to do it regularly, maybe if I see an opportunity to get something going I will, and I might leave a bit in after a session but the key to this plan is to get the bag to do the work for me a bit 🤔😁

Been on BAF this morning 😁 Fish hydro Stinger oil 1kg Crayfish meal 1kg Krill powder More 2mm pellets Amino hookbait soak That's not a bad way to start this trial i think 👍 Going to try and prepare some special hookbaits too 😁

Hi all I've been thinking about this a lot lately now I want to try and create the ultimate pva bag mix, I am keen to make this the staple of my fishing year Now what I am thinking is a mix of small 2mm pellets, boilie crumb, an active groundbait and I am thinking a mix of a hydroslate and an oil and maybe also some nice powders like a GLM or krill powder or something maybe brococell what i am hoping is the oil will lift this through the water column to boost attraction Hookbaits will be pop ups, wafters or plastic baits going to try and keep those small and refined if I can I will still spod or fire out boilies around it but I want the bag and hookbait to be the epicentre of the attraction What would you guys add to the ultimate pva bag mix?

I think there has never been a better time to learn how to fish than now tbh, if I had been a kid now I would be a much better angler than I was when I was a kid, all I had for knowledge were John Wilson books other books from the library, mags and TV programmes, we learnt how to fish by ourselves because there wasn't an alternative, I just used to pester anyone I could for info, but now I can Google search or watch some videos that will teach me how to tie knots or set up a rig that isn't a death trap within minutes, yes my childhood angling was magical and I can and do look back with rose tinted specs, but I have a thirst to learn all I can and God bless you tube for that, it's free I don't have to get up in the loft to dig out the crate of festering carp world's or go to the local newsagent hoping they have still got a copy, I can just use a computer or phone But I will try to make my kids fishing as magical as mine was if they continue to want to go but that's mainly because I want to be a good parent, but I would happily let them learn from watching you tube as they will soak it up like a sponge and learn things u wouldn't have known about as a kid

Ouch I did similar holding my little one, I slipped on a toy, she was fine but I did my back in so I feel your pain, hope it's not too serious and you are milking it for all you can, 👍

Probably too much coating over the insert tbh,

It could work but tbh I think I woukd feel happier with a lead that just run free, the lead should assist the take enough with sharp hooks then in theory the fish wouldn't be able to use the weight of the lead to get the hook out again as it would detach and be a free running lead, that's the theory got to get a take or two to see what happens in practice,

Not really I think that seemed to cause most of the problems I tried putty that gummed up in the lead not too keen on putting anything else behind it really would rather it could come off easily is need be, Good thing abiut the tadpole sleeve it grips the lead just enough to hold it, but I think any amount of shaking from the fish and it will detach from the sleeve and be free I had a chat with the guy in the fishing shop when he saw them in action he said he would change to them from the korda alternative as its a better set up 👍

Sorted it I think, fox leads and tadpoles, the lead will detach from the rubber before the swivel releases, meaning the lead is free running pretty much from the off I think and without an insert , I am pretty confident it will be fairly safe even quick change with a leader 10/10 times the lead pulled before the swivel and I am quite confident that lead wouldn't get stuck unless it was super weedy but then this probably isn't the right set up for that anyway

They didn't have any avid spods in the shop unfortunately, but have a look on you tube there are a couple of vids they look good for an easy loading I think

I tried pulling the insert out of one of my ebay leads didn't want to come out, they will need drilling I think 🤔🥴🤠 I think seeing how i won't be losing them I may splash out on a few fox ones to go with the tadpole set up as apparently they are slightly bigger holes so should be perfect, I am taking rapunzel to the fishing shop now wish me luck 🎣🐟

I would try to get as close as possible, its not much fun trying to cast something too heavy or light for the rod tbh for my 3lb rods I like a 3.5oz lead, i tried a wide pva bag with a 3.5oz lead in the other day was fine for shorter distance but I wouldn't want to launch one too far, If using a 3lb rod I wouldn't want to cast much more than 4oz ideally I might have a look at the little avid spods today they look pretty nifty

Looking into the bag stems a little closer they seem to be made from a bag insert with some kind of loop made from some kind of leader material, there seems to be options again anyway Fox do a tadpole insert that looks by far the safest set up, as the lead comes off the insert not the swivel, leaving you with a bare lead with no insert running up the line, I can feel a trip to the tackle shop coming on 😁

The Tackle box do a couple of 10ft utility rods in 3.75lb tc

Is there a shock leader that's ready for my shocking casting 😁😁😳

Is using a shock leader out the question?

Point taken so they are out, shame though as it would've worked from a diameter point of view I reckon, but going forward the dream is a quick change pva set up that is safe so there is no point continuing with that li e of enquiry I did say uncoated, Its those knots that are causing me a few issues at present, if there is a way to fish it safely I hope its findable, The thing I think that puts me and probably most off using pva bags normally is the faff everytime you want to recast, you need to dry your rig out make a fresh bag tie it up and I'm pretty sure it's why most people use mesh bags just hooked on and chucked out The best solution so far seems to be just to use an avid bag stem or similar it seems pretty safe only one loopknot in the mainline above which a bored out lead would easily pass over and even easier if you could slide a piece of tubing over it, which would then take out the knot risk completely 😁 I think sometimes I really want to find these solutions only to discover they are already there 😁😁😁😁

I had that same thought earlier 😁

Also any putty would have to be after any knots tbh the putty has been the biggest no no I've found so far made it very tricky for the lead to pass , I also added a bit of the hook point protection Vaseline stuff to the knot and that made it glide through really easily, This is all pre drilled BTW so should be even easier

Clutching at straws here lol but if I was to make a leader out of uncoated braid hooklink would that be ok? Both travel over the knot easily as its a lot finer, obviously still a no no in weedy or snaggy situations but is this still dodgy do you think?

I just came to a similar conclusion tbh main concern though is the internal diameter on the lead by trimming the tail rubber I could get it to pass over the knot fairly easily, the lead went over the knot also with a lowish pulling force, however with both of these that is FOD free add any FODDAGE to the equation and I fully agree its a bit dodgy,

Will have to have a think, I still want it to be quick change tbh but also safe might have a play with the outline fluoro leader to see if that works 😬

It's probably not a bad thing for me to go smaller though these days though, might help me feel I've put enough bait out with out overdoing it 😁 And actually smaller Spods may better represent the pva parcel I want them to eat 👍