elmoputney

Ive put hydrotuff through its paces for 2 years and it hasn't let me down yet, great line Sounds like a challenge that place, I can't really advise much otherwise other than enjoy it 🤣

Well if like me you get savaged my the pesky little twits, you may want to take protection, I went to bait up last night, man I got savaged in those 20 minutes, they were out in force after a day of good weather, wear protection, stay safe, don't get vampired Someone told me to put a piece of liver in a bowl as they will suck that dry instead anyone tried it?

No me either he was pretty good 😁

Don't suppose you know what battery I need for my mozzie light do you mine didn't come with one for some reason?

Can you get them to sound like this though 😁 https://youtu.be/VDnio2axqNI

I accidently fired a boilie at a rolling one the other week it reacted quite badly too it and crashed Into the pads 😬

I've fished hard waters where I've really struggled but I made it too complicated for myself and tied myself in knots,this year I am keeping it simple and feeding them consistently and it's the one thing I have always done and been confident of 👍

I find it easier to catch them if I feed them 😰

I have caught fish on them and they have been fine, and the way yonny explained it actually made me think it might not be such a bad thing to have some flex as it could almost act like a shock absorber when the fish lunges , I think it would take quite a lot of force to straighten one out, but I have never noticed a hook do that before so maybe that was why it puzzled me and made me worry a bit

I have similar questions lol at the moment I use 18mm pretty much exclusively with 11mm pellets, In my head I'm feeding the nuisance fish off with the pellets and the 18mm baits are being eaten by the carp 😂 I have used mixed sizes and 12mm baits to add more individual items when fishing and also caught tench 🤔 but if pre-baiting whilst there will be more free items I think using 12mm or 15mm you are more likely to be feeding the nuisance fish the good stuff 😬 I find if I use an 18mm hookbait with boilies and pellets I don't catch tench and bream, I actually think they get preoccupied on the pellets and leave the bigger baits, I've seen them rolling but haven't actually caught one for a while 😱 If you forced me to go higher or lower than an 18mm I would go higher, I would happily use 20mm+ baits and if you create the right situation they will trough like pigs, I would say they would have to move more to find a spread of 18mm than a spread of 12mm as they will be less concentrated so that's how I decided not to mess about also 1 size is easier to distribute with a pult or throwing stick Hope this helps basically big is easier lol 😁

I found out by accident there is a lot of flex in the smaller sized trig hammers, I was tightening a knot down and it opened up quite a lot almost like it had a potential weak spot,

I wouldn't say they are hard but I wouldn't say soft either lol, quite often really overslung mouths with long barbules but I guess some of the bigger older ones maybe have seen a few battles in there time so maybe harder, but on the whole they are in pretty good nick, I think they don't need to fully tilt and maybe able to feed fairly flat to the bottom usually I'm using a size 4 curve mainly at present there are a lot of nuisance fish and the spot is quite firm now so I think it's probably being picked up and moved quite often, might just have been some unlucky pick ups , I do perhaps think that using a stripped back section will help it turn, which may improve the hook hold and hopefully rule it out, maybe, 😂 Cheers guys for the replies certainly lots to think about 👍🍺🍻

I tend to do my own thing but information is worth hearing even if you just discount it afterwards, or just to do the opposite, personally I wouldn't worry about the lead burying, out of sight out of mind, also I bet the craters fill back in eventually as the undertow pushes the silt abiut it will settle in the hole until its level again Its worth a try they catch carp too

What have people told you, you won't catch them on or methods people say don't work ?

I didn't suggest a chod rig though, I don't use them either or helicopters usually but there are some situations where they will work better than other set ups, this being one maybe, and I bet most people will also be using pop ups hence me suggesting a longish wafter rig on a helicopter 🚁

I was just offering you some advice on what I think might work I will go back to my pen 🐑

Use a dumpy distance lead on a helicopter set up, use a chod bead and set it a bit higher up the line/leader so just the rig settles on the top of the silt but the lead gets plugged right in and just use a longish wafter rig with a mesh bag to slow it and that would work a treat I think, 👍🤔😁

I've just had a play and made a new rig with the swivel bait screw I also had a play in water and noticed it didn't always turn quick enough or the right way, so I am going to strip the end of the rig so it turns quicker maybe even just do that first, you almost need a pop up to hold up the swivel screw anyway, the wafters I am using are buoyant enough but I'm not convinced using one on the wafter rig is a great idea will probably Improve the pop up rig though so first stage is stripping some coating off its probably what it needs anyway tbh

My thoughts were just ditching the lead may help as the inlines can sneak up the line I'm mot ditching those tbh they are fox ones 😁

Thanks I may try 2 mods next time switch to leadclips, 4 oz leads and use the longer bait screw, only been using 3oz leads lately

That's one off the list then it wasn't my main concern tbh I don't think I give it excessive force I lost one in the pads bit slow getting to the rod that time though my mozzie mesh wouldn't let me out quick enough, but mainly dropping off once I'm in the safer area, they do fight hard and go for anything that could make life tougher, but very strange times they've pulled out tbh I noticed one yesterday came in burred over, that was on a wafter rig though,I do get more bites on those 😬

I tend to work on smell with silt if your lead and bait come in stinking it's probably not the one, I seem to recall Rob Hughes on an underwater vid saying that silt always looks lighter and sandy when you are in the water, so it may be just the fishspy sees it like that

Hook holds have usually been quite good, when I've got them in tbh,mainly bottom lip somewhere,and if I land them they are usually OK, I think it's one of four things Fishing locked up and having to bully them a bit from the off I usually walk back to help this , using an inline and not dropping it, the bait screw, Hooks blunting maybe could try a beaked point, or always use a mesh bag to soften the fall through the water, my lead does land with a crack these days 😂

Perfect thanks for that

Thanks for that I take it you just splice them onto the leader?