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Sounds like you either need to make your own spot or find something in between the 2 spots where they would pass, personally I wouldn't bother baiting a spot that is being fished all the time, that probably won't help as there will be regular baiting already being done, fish the spots if you can but maybe trickle some in elsewhere if you think they have another area they may visit, I'm currently in a similar position where people seem to be getting swims going and swims I've tried to bait up have been taken when I get there, my aim is to just make my bait as attractive as I can fish everywhere and build up a picture, I may start a little pre-baiting later on in the year, once I've got it sussed out a bit more but for now, just keep moving round and try and find something where no one else is looking,, 👍

Thanks guys quality advice I have found around 3 or 4 areas where they hold up and a couple of spots that they feed on only problem is where I have seen them feed alot so does everyone else and quite common to turn up and those known feeding spots are being fished 80% of the time.

Imo these are completely different prospects, especially for pre-baiting, and I'd approach them completely differently. On such a small water (1 1/2 acres) I'd be looking to bait very small spots, very accurately. On bigger waters I'd be trying to get them visiting an area frequently. On waters as small as an acre they're already in the area so I'd be trying to get them feeding regularly on the exact spot I intend to hook them from. On any water I find frequency is more important than qty. Half a kilo 3 times a week is much more effective than one big dump once a week imo. You don't need to use anything special - any half decent baits will do the job. I tend to use a good food bait and bulk it out with something else (what that something else is will depend on what's in the lake (for example I'd avoid pellet and corn if tench are going to smash the lot)). I tend to stick to boilies and tigers if tench are about. Pick the right spot(s). Try to find an area the fish like to visit regularly regardless of pre-baiting. Try to keep it quiet. Pre-baiting is no good if others are fishing your spots when you're not there. Have fun.

I'm a Gardner Pro fan myself. Used it for a few years now with no problems

ESP Synchro for me and well pleased with it. It knots nicely and sinks well. Ian.

I like hydrotuff, I think it's a great line, I would happily use Gardner lines all day long, gets my vote, this may help

That's the one for some reason i thought it was labeled as GT/GR90. Gardener line has got a good reputation they only allow fluro leaders or tubing on the lake i fish. Yes but it is a few years old and the reels are no longer as full as they should be, plus it looks awful in silty water.

Isn’t tiger line a Fluro? do you have spare spools if so I would be tempted to keep that on and use the synchro or gr60 on the others

Gr60 been using it 2yrs now in 20lb it's only this last few months with a leader because of the rules at the lake

I would eat it myself if it was stored correctly and didn’t stink when opened so I would certainly give it to fish in a lake have you seen some of the stuff they eat lol

I know it well. Same thing happened on the big lake when the weed was treated back in 2016. Basically the dye inhibits weed growth which has exposed the silt/bloodworm beds that aren't normally revealed until late autumn. It makes the fishing much harder as it's tricky to compete with an abundance of natural food.

???? The Synchro is decent. Gardner Pro is cheaper and offers similar properties. Never hard of Gardner 90? They do a GT80 and a GR60 but no 90. Do you mean Berkley CM90? Check out Gardner HydroTuff. Great line.

I was prebaiting with wild bird seed mix from home bargains then add 2 tins of chickpeas 2 tins of butter beans a few hands of my boilies and was happy days I only put in 500gram bags around the lake of boilies spread out so they find it different places and it's safe because every man and his dog is jumping it in I just fish a large single with a pva bag of ground bait soaked in hemp oil the night before that's it

If I see any "fizzing" I'll try to anticipate the path of it. I'll then cast as quietly as I can about 10-12 feet further ahead of where I think it's heading, and fire just a few baits out between the fizz and where my bait landed. And then I'll sit on my hands for as long as it takes. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. But that's what makes it fun.

Prebait what you can afford! When I was fishing Earith Virgina Water, about 20acres, I was only putting in a kilogramme of boilies every week. Ok, I had put in around 10kg before I even started fishing, but when I left every week I would put in a kilo over various spots in the lake. I was only fishing over stringers, bags and a few freebies, a mix of pellets, whole and chopped boilies, no more than 500grams at a time. Basically I was taking 3 500gram * bags of boilies, one for fishing with, and two to put in at the end, and a small bucket of pellets, around a kilogramme. * I was making my own bait, so always bagged them up in 500gram bags. Any extras would get airdried and after they were totally dry would get added to the pellet bucket or saved and used instead of frozen baits.

You're not going to make any friends like that bro. Most syndis and clubs are the same. The longer term members can become very protective of the water which is completely normal, and this can very much give the impression of a clique. It is human nature to an extent. You have two options in this case: 1 - Take the defensive, kiss my ass attitude. This will set you up for a campaign of animosity. 2 - Feel your way in, gently gently. Be on your best behaviour, show respect and etiquette (which in the long term you WILL be shown in return), get to know the members and become part of the group. End up with a bunch of new mates and the camaraderie associated with any decent syndi or club. Worry about your own results, not others mate. Being done 4 times and losing one, when "no one else had nothing" is nothing to shout about imo bro. Even if you had caught 5 there's no need to compare your results to others just to big yourself up. There is a fine line between commenting on the high and mighty attitude of others and exhibiting that exact same characteristics yourself. Relax and enjoy your new water bro. Those other guys are only human, you'll probs get on like a house on fire in the long run.