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both the maggi and squid brand fish sauce have high salt content. I found when using the fish sauce heavily (it's just 77% anchovy extract, 20% salt & 3% sugar) it actually preserved the baits longer on the bank once absorbed. Maggi is mainly because it is a savoury liquid based on hydrolysed wheat proteins which means there is a fair bit of MSG & DI in it. MSG is sodium and glutamate (a naturally occurring amino acid), a taste enhancer. Hydrolysed Wheat is basically MSG (or glutamic acid) so the same thing as you can buy from DNA baits and others as a glug, however in Maggi it's in another form, thinned and combined with savoury flavourings and salt & sugar. I also like to powder my hookbaits sometimes, a cheap bag of spirulina from Aldi's health food section, liver powder & cocoa powder have all worked for me in the past. Another incredible glug is marmite, either direct dip a hookbait or thin with warm water to make a glug.

Do you need them ,no . Alot of all these add ons are marketing . I use hydro's , liver , squid and fish but my thinking here is the food signal that they are giving off , I do leave some hookers soaking in hydro's aswell does it give them an edge I don't know for me its more about confidence . Glugging for the sake of it in the latest must have will just lead you down the path of swapping and changing every 5 minutes. Just my thoughts but pick a decent fishmeal add one type of decent food signal soak/glug , Pick one spod mix and again if it will give you confidence then add a liquid. Fish are caught on every water every year by some using every add on going while others are caught using a simple approach. Get your head around what you feel confident in and stick with it . I also think this word 'edge' is over used .

I always like a bit of something extra on my baits or hookbaits. It's a confidence thing and I only use something I know adds to the bait not just for the sake of it. Squid brand fish sauce, maggi seasoning & baileys are my go to glugs. I did get some shrimp liquid last year which was very good as glug but totally overpowering of everything else, smells like fertiliser it's that concentrated. Much better in a bait than on it to be honest so I'm swapping it for some liver powder with my bait man

Will be a pretty uniformed bottom, But There will be the odd thing to to take note of I'm sure , 😉 the spot within the spot 😁 Cheers guys .... started clearing the ground the last couple of days .

ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell em about marmite lol

I think some glugs are a complete waste of time i.e. glycerine with flavour added. Hydro's I rate big time. Oils I don't use. It's clear that carp like to eat food with oils applied but there is that school of thought that carp don't have the receptors to detect oil until it's literally being eaten. I already have confidence the carp will eat my bait once found with or without oil. My main concern is providing the attraction to help them find my bait in the first place. Some say that oils lift particles of your bait and chosen attractors up through the water column which provides that attraction but imo there is a risk that oils can potentially 'lock-up' a bait, preventing your attractors (e.g. hydro's) from being released, making your bait less effective. What I can say is this: since I stopped using oil a few years ago my results have not suffered.

I use retro baits , still doing well on Shropshire gold , I also use the meaty garlic ,tried the essential 5 but not had any real luck with that one the crab is meant to be good. If you go with his pop ups I'd say go for the 14mm the 12mm snails look good but my tub wern't all that buoyant . BAF have one litre each of hydro squid,liver and fish for £30 delivered at the moment ,soak your baits in any of those and you'll have a decent bait . Retro do all the glugs , dips etc but I've not tried them .

Thanks guys That makes sense I think edge perhaps isn't the right word but just wondered if less might be more, but yes confidence in the bait is what I want to achieve this year, I'm looking at retro baits and I'm thinking Shropshire gold could be the one for me, sounds like a lovely foodbait but still at a decent price, but just wondering whether I should add something else to it also ? It is another new bait lol but the last one I was using whilst I really liked it, getting it delivered was the issue, sometimes taking up to 5 weeks, which is no good for me I did use a couple of hydros last year a dna one and also the sticky squid ink one which I quite liked, do you use the retro bait glugs Oscsha? I think I can see why you like the Maggi seasoning it looks really salty, and doesn't cost the earth which I like I did try using a garlic infused oil last year, I actually caught a couple using that, so maybe I could try and create my own blend, 🤔 I really want to find a solid bait and stick with it this year I did keep changing my mind last year, this year I want to start and finish on the same bait knowing it works by the end of it 😀

One of my club lakes has a pole to show you where the shopping trolleys are 😂

Ive only used hydros. Be that krill, salmon, shrimp and a shore crab one. I've used them all and no one is any better than the other. I've blended them also. The only thing I noticed over a few seasons were the results were better in the spring time using these glugs. And it's not just the hookbaits that were glugged, all my bait would have been glugged (boilies I mean).

You need one of those bin lids in there to be able to present your 3 rods on 😁

I do t think I'll ever change...it 1 fish so far this year and 2 fish since September...😁😁

I like it too but I can’t buy a bite on it lol

I have never really paid to much attention to oils and glug's outside of the goo really but over the last year i have started to play around a bit more, from urban i tend to add a decent amount of the nutcracker liquid and leave it to soak for a day or 2 then on the day i add some of the red spicy flavouring. On the 2 waters i fished last year i caught really well and consistently, Would i have caught as many with them? Who knows but if i am catching with them iam not going to stop using them....Also the liquid tastes nice and the red spicy flavoring is just mashed up chilli's, Its hot and great on chips!

@elmoputney - no not tried the retro glugs , I'm on my last bottle of original LT30 that I sometimes glug my hook baits in .

Sounds like a really good and positive idea, good luck with the project keep us informed would enjoy seeing how it's developing 👍

So I guess you will otter fence your project , and take detailed 'photos of the lakebed before it fills up with water ? . Sounds very exciting . 😁