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I hear this phrase all the time and it really bugs me, What does it mean really ? I want to fish with my friend We want to get really drunk and camp Me and my mate have got some weed and we're gonna smoke it together We don't want to fish effectively because we need two swims next door even though the fish are far away I don't really even like being that sociable in the bank, I am polite and do chat but I much prefer to watch the lake and will actively seek solice in anti social swims 😀

I've been saying the same about line aligner's Kev ... very easy to close the gape up . With most of my fishing abroad these days , I've taken to coated braid straight through ( no stripped section ) no kicker needed just the hair it self is stripped . Absolutely nailed them on a size 2 last time out .

Made this one ready for tomorrow 3oz lead on a lead clip, size 6 curved shank hook, longer hook link length made with fox rigidity stiff rig.

I tried organising a social on the now defunct (s'why I'm here) Crafty Carper forum.... it's like herding cats... I gave up in the end... go out and do what you want yerself... that said an old workmate got in touch earlier on this week and we are going to have a day on Ashlyns in North Weald... chew the fat... have a rap and see if we can winkle one out... done 4 trips there blanked every time... turns out its a 365 day a year maggot water... couple of pints o' grubs... and some pva and maggot clips... even if I blank... we'll be 'avin' a social.... wish me luck👍😎

I Think homemade, done yourself line aligners close the gape less than tackle company manufactured ones which seem to have a greater kink or curve built in, especially if you use silicon tubing rather than shrink tube.

this is the rig im using atm. a size 4 hook and a withypool aligner 12 inch soft coated braid with about 10mm striped from the back of the aligner to act as a hinge point and a piece of putty to turn the hook. use it with a balanced 15mm boilie. very aggressive kick off the hook that nails them every time (a bit like yours but with a little more distance between the hook point and the bottom of the aligner). probably the best bit of advice to give you an edge. your not just trying to out smart the fish your trying to out smart every other angler on the lake as well.

Don't be too quick to dismiss your short rig idea, I witnessed a proper haul from a tricky water with the guy using 2 inch rigs - un-coated braid. 2 x 40's, several 30's and a few 20's later there was no doubt that they were not too short to catch fish - maybe it was the edge over everyone else doing very similar things. Keep thinking outside the box fella- if you do the same as everyone expect to catch the same. We have a habit of copying what the others are doing even if they are doing badly or just ticking over with the odd fish. 👍

Yep. It's now my lake lol.

I just think Its important to be different size 4 has cropped up an awful lot though

I know of a local day ticket with an HONESTY Box, completely emptied of all fish species & even ducks by EE'S. Blatantly just cooking up on the Bank. Local park lake, has mesh stone crates reinforced banks. They started with cord tied to branches, which were quickly removed, they then started tying the cord to the mesh crates slightly underwater, sneaky bar stewards. A landing net pole or stick walked around the margins is how we tried to dispatch them, but as with anyone trying to get something, they were determined to have a free lunch and have slowly emptied it. The other year one of chefs from a local Chinese restaurant was caught with a carrier bag full of ducks from the pond too!!

Result muft 😎 .... I got access to a lake for the very same reason years ago , posted it about it on here . Not lines out, but a family loading the boot of the car up wuth the days catch !