Media driven angling?

[Carpbell3]

Are anglers expecting too much from the UKs climate and water temps, fair play if you wish to fish all year round, but you can't expect anything really, some lads that pop up on my twitter feed are only just having their first carp since last autumn, yet not really paying much consideration to the fact you really do have to be on the carp in winter.

A tench angler out at first light in march looking for large tench, which is not  impossible but damn near, you could win most afternoon matches in march with a 2oz perch caught on half a pinkie.

I think a return to the promotion of seasonal angling is needed it's a shame specimen angling has gone the way it has, driven by private industry and retail, I'm starting to find the ignorant marketing something similar to a dodgy double glazing sales team yet they are never called out due to angling being recreational.

I don't fish winters myself but if I did I wouldn't be doing summer type angling just for the sake of getting out.

 

 

[salokcinnodrog]

Very interesting topic.

Is it just media driven, or is it 'carp only'?

I grew up fishing, with a close season on rivers and lakes. Summer was tench and bream, and winter was roach on the river and pike. I was a mix between a match and big fish angler. Carp were a bonus on the second rod, although in the late 1980's I did start fishing pretty much for them almost exclusively.

I was lucky in that I did actually get my name in the Anglers Mail with 5lb tench and 5lb chub when I was 14, and by the time I was 17 had landed 2 9lb tench, bream to 8lb, a couple of 2lb roach and a 20lb pike.

I kind of stayed on the edge of the fishing industry and media, rolling bait for a company, and in my early 20's actually running a water for a couple of years. I was also appearing in CarpTalk a bit, on my own catches and submissions and also with Ian Jones who was writing Cambs Uncovered, publicising catches and waters in the area.

I guess carp.com is or was the edge of media, as certain subjects have made it into magazines or online media, either directly or as Carpology has done with a 'sneaky' pinch.

I've actually moved away from carp only, probably since about 2014, chasing big roach on a reservoir, more 20lb pike, and the tench again to 12lb.

The media driven did get to wind me up...

[elmoputney]

I personally think the closed season is an outdated concept and shouldn't be reinstated. 

What I would like to see is fishery owners being more responsible and closing once they spawn and remain closed for a month or so to give the fish some recovery time. 

I think media is better in many ways, you can learn what you want, find out about products you might want and ignore the rest. 

[Carpbell3]

Maybe media was the wrong word meant more industry driven via social media I guess if you invest in a modern fisheries you are going to want all year round anglers, one lad was complaining on FB he paid 40 for 24 hours and got rig checked twice two different lake staff members. 

The estate lake near me a once syndicate is now a lake exclusive only which is fair enough then you read the rules choice of four pegs which must be fished from and they also insist on certain lead set ups and tubing only no straight through even, notoriously difficult water that has had stock fish added, I wouldn't expect strict peg rules on a lake exclusive, they are only in place to stop swim poaching on day ticket waters.

[framey]

4 hours ago, elmoputney said:

I personally think the closed season is an outdated concept and shouldn't be reinstated. 

What I would like to see is fishery owners being more responsible and closing once they spawn and remain closed for a month or so to give the fish some recovery time. 

I think media is better in many ways, you can learn what you want, find out about products you might want and ignore the rest. 

There was always an air of anticipation on June 16th (usually followed by disappointment )

I think it should be re introduced but as a floating shut down 

once any of the species starts spawning then close for the 3 months not just carp.

Nature would also appreciate it.

think back to covid 

everyone was gagging to get back to it thats how it felt way back when.

and from memory it was March to June 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by framey

[elmoputney]

I caught my first/ last fish just before lockdown around the 20th March first session back and caught my first after lockdown 18th May I had a 10 fish hit and the next morning whilst sitting in my bivvy, I got a call from my boss telling me I might be on a short list to be made redundant. That was a week after my dad's funeral. 

So it sticks in my mind a bit. 

I'm all for a shut down post spawning but 3 months feels excessive to me. 

[framey]

1 hour ago, elmoputney said:

I caught my first/ last fish just before lockdown around the 20th March first session back and caught my first after lockdown 18th May I had a 10 fish hit and the next morning whilst sitting in my bivvy, I got a call from my boss telling me I might be on a short list to be made redundant. That was a week after my dad's funeral. 

So it sticks in my mind a bit. 

I'm all for a shut down post spawning but 3 months feels excessive to me. 

12 weeks garden leave and then I got made redundant 2 weeks before covid hit and lockdown happened.

You would have thought after 23 years they could have furloughed me and then Made me redundant.

25k redundancy later and a new job in July on more money I think I won. 👍👍

the MD who made me and the others redundant was made to resign or get sacked 18 months later.

 

just checked he has done 4 more jobs since “leaving”

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by framey