Carpmaster Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 The lake I’m fishing has a lot of bird life but I’ve been watching the tuftys dive and have noticed them diving on different spots and coming back up eating,I put a lead over to check and these are clean!! There was a huge weed Ed there but now this spot and it’s not the only one they’ve shown me today. Has anyone else noticed this activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 Anglers bait that hasn’t been eaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted March 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 This wasn’t bait I was looking through a range finder it seemed natural but the water is Baltic cold or silt from the bottom. This spot used to be a solid thick weed bed but gone now all died back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Carpmaster said: all died back This is generally what happens to weed in winter buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 They'll likely be diving on the naturals that have been revealed as the weed dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, yonny said: They'll likely be diving on the naturals that have been revealed as the weed dies. I got you so the carp will be too😏😏time for an artificial I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Watching bird life can be a good aid when working out various waters. On deeper venues, you can use tufties diving to work out the clear areas as well as the depth as each species has a maximum diving depth. Swans only feed to a certain depth, if they can’t reach, that can give you an idea of depth. You can see birds stood or wade on shallow bars and sunken islands. On one water, if I see coots diving on my spot, then I usually know that there are no carp down there, when the coots stop or spook off, then I’ve usually had a take soon after. Geese and swans sometimes suddenly alter course when swimming from point A to B if they come across a carp basking in the upper layers. I’ve seen coots and moorhens become territorial and call out or stamp their feet when carp come near to their nests. There are lots of subtle signs everywhere when you take the time to look, if nothing else, watching the wildlife makes the sport so aesthetically pleasing. elmoputney and Carpmaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Take it as a sign and start baiting it 👍 We have a duck eating catfish in my lake, someone in the syndicate watched one getting killed by one, i thought it must've been an otter or something, but he was adamant it was a cat as he said the fight lasted ages and he saw it rolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, elmoputney said: Take it as a sign and start baiting it 👍 We have a duck eating catfish in my lake, someone in the syndicate watched one getting killed by one, i thought it must've been an otter or something, but he was adamant it was a cat as he said the fight lasted ages and he saw it rolling There’s a pike that does that on this water there’s a grebe missing an me and my mate seen it go down but didn’t come back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Iv had coots take my hook bait in 14ft of water, I’m sure they go deeper. Tuffs can out dive a submarine. Iv fished a shallow swim and there were carp about but also a family of swans which were a nightmare till I found a 5ft ish area up against a island the only place they couldn’t pick up my baits, had 3 carp from that spot. A Dutch angler on YouTube had a underwater camera in his swim filming a carp feeding when a coot dived under saw the carp 20lb + and pecked it 😳 Carpmaster and salokcinnodrog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Carpmaster said: The lake I’m fishing has a lot of bird life but I’ve been watching the tuftys dive and have noticed them diving on different spots and coming back up eating,I put a lead over to check and these are clean!! There was a huge weed Ed there but now this spot and it’s not the only one they’ve shown me today. Has anyone else noticed this activity Tufty's can be very useful at identifying spots, although as @framey has pointed out they can be a pain if they are on bait. They do tend to feed on the same spots as carp, quite probably the same, as their usual diet is molluscs (snails and mussels) and insects. Bait for both just happens to be a sideline... On some waters I have been plagued by coots and tufties, getting continual pick-ups, then the next bleep becomes a full blooded run as a carp takes the bait. Yet on others if the coots are about the swim the carp aren't. I have watched coots suddenly surface looking spooked, and had a run immediately after, so it is something I look for. It may be pike spooking them, but it can be carp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, salokcinnodrog said: Tufty's can be very useful at identifying spots, although as @framey has pointed out they can be a pain if they are on bait. They do tend to feed on the same spots as carp, quite probably the same, as their usual diet is molluscs (snails and mussels) and insects. Bait for both just happens to be a sideline... On some waters I have been plagued by coots and tufties, getting continual pick-ups, then the next bleep becomes a full blooded run as a carp takes the bait. Yet on others if the coots are about the swim the carp aren't. I have watched coots suddenly surface looking spooked, and had a run immediately after, so it is something I look for. It may be pike spooking them, but it can be carp... Cheers guys I shall keep the mince pies open an start a little trickle going in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 49 minutes ago, Carpmaster said: There’s a pike that does that on this water there’s a grebe missing an me and my mate seen it go down but didn’t come back up They just hang round my spots terrorising the small fish and waiting til night time to eat a yellow pop up 😪 Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Looking forward to next time I will take more cloths next time being in the lake in shorts to get my rods an pod back after being blown off the platform was no joke but a bird twitcher carper something new lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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