nathanhuynh Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 just found an awesome rig to use with maggots which is criticly balanced and works for carp far better than any maggot clip: use a supple braided hooklink and tie onto one end with a half blood knot a size 14 barbless hook. now thread a large bit of pop-up corn onto the other end and slide down until it is on the size 14 now knotless knot a size 8 carp hook as if the bit of pop-up was the boilie then pull the size 14 out of the corn, use a testing tank to see how many maggots you need to make it balanced, to put on the maggots simply hook them onto the size 14 then pull it slick into the corn! two tips: try putting a few fake pop-up maggots in with the real ones to make it sit better fish it over a PVA bag of maggot and corn Quote
andy52 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Don't like maggot clips, and deffinatley don't like the idea of putting 2 hooks in a carps mouth, saw the rig you described years back, didn't like it then , less so now Quote
graham1969 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 I saw this on thinking tackle a while back as well......im with andy, the idea of using 2 hooks on a rig just dosent sit right with me......you can use maggots on a rig without having to use maggot clip or 2 hooks mate......just use floss..... Quote
emmcee Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 there's only one maggot rig and thats the mag-aliner, simples Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 I don't like maggot clips or the use of a second hook, and I'll stick to putting maggots on thread or floss tied onto rig ring or even sew maggots and thread onto a piece of foam or glue them to a cork ball Quote
nathanhuynh Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Posted April 15, 2013 I don't like maggot clips or the use of a second hook, and I'll stick to putting maggots on thread or floss tied onto rig ring or even sew maggots and thread onto a piece of foam or glue them to a cork ball the second hook cant possably get out. It isnot for hooking the carp. It acts as a maggot clip instead of using a great big clip! Quote
andy52 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Right imagine this Nat, big hook in bottom lip, hair with 2nd hook slightly long, during fight 2nd hook catches top lip effectively sealing fishes mouth shut. If fish can't open mouth it dies, simples. Or it's mouth is ripped to shreads Don't like it never will, no matter which high profile tit says its good Quote
liamclose Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Personally dont think the rig is any more dangerous than any other rig. Wouldnt use it personally because a needle and cotton does the job but the above post about sealing a carps mouth and the fish dieing is ridiculous its not going to happen. Quote
graham1969 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 How come I cant say hob K n o b....but he can say tit.? Theres a rabbit off here me thinks.... Quote
andy52 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Personally dont think the rig is any more dangerous than any other rig. Wouldnt use it personally because a needle and cotton does the job but the above post about sealing a carps mouth and the fish dieing is ridiculous its not going to happen. How you know for sure it won't, 1 hook nailed in bottom lip , 1 flying hook, what's to say the 2nd hook can't nail the top lip, they are designed to do that you know Quote
liamclose Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 If instead of useing that size 14 as part of the hair and you used the 14 as its used in the said rig as your main hook bait how many fish would you hook? thats right non. The scenio your talking bout would be a so unlikely it makes it safe enough to use imo! Quote
nigewoodcock Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Have used this in the past. I use a Korum hook that have the eye with no join. Quite big in comparison to the hook. They were also barbed. Once one is pulled into the plastic corn, there is no chance of it coming out without two opposing forces pulling on it. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Surely with a second hook that may be flying you risk extra damage to the fish? Main hook in bottom lip, second hook catches outside lip, as fish is netted, hook in cheek tears out. Or as Andy has said, you have hook in lip, and second hook in throat, which could be difficult to remove and may or may not seal the throat or mouth shut. Quote
andy52 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 If instead of useing that size 14 as part of the hair and you used the 14 as its used in the said rig as your main hook bait how many fish would you hook? thats right non. The scenio your talking bout would be a so unlikely it makes it safe enough to use imo! Ya wot???????? Quote
Gaz Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 to me it is never safe and should never be allowed. to, TO risky Quote
nigewoodcock Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Just robbed these off google images: Before being loaded with maggots: After hook has been pulled into corn. Make sure it's pulled in past the barb as far in as it will go: How I tie it now: Quote
albatrossx1 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Posted April 15, 2013 Just robbed these off google images: Before being loaded with maggots: After hook has been pulled into corn. Make sure it's pulled in past the barb as far in as it will go: How I tie it now: Nuff Said, nothing wrong with that rig, it beats needle n threading em Quote
brighton_carper Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 Thanks for that Nig. Looks totally safe to me, and definitely a better option than a maggot clip. Quote
Guest Nhawkeye Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 I'll second that. There's nothing wrong with that rig. It is pretty obvious to see that the second hook has no chance of coming out of the plastic corn and being a potential hazard. However, if live maggots were being used, I'd use cotton thread every time. Quote
lardybloke Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 Couldn't visualise it from the description, but now I've seen the pictures I like it. As far as I can see the hook poses less of a hazard than a maggot ring which has an exposed end. Quote
nathanhuynh Posted April 16, 2013 Author Report Posted April 16, 2013 Right imagine this Nat, big hook in bottom lip, hair with 2nd hook slightly long, during fight 2nd hook catches top lip effectively sealing fishes mouth shut. If fish can't open mouth it dies, simples. Or it's mouth is ripped to shreads Don't like it never will, no matter which high profile tit says its good if the hook were loose then yes it would be dangerous but the hook is sealed tight into the stiff corn and it is safe. You need to use a rig tool to pull out the hook! I doubt it would ever come loose in a fish's mouth. Quote
andy52 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 Now seen pics, yes it is safe as has been said no goo for just maggots though Quote
liamclose Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 nobody said to use it with only maggots as that would be dangerous but it was explained at the start of the thread in detail about the use of artificial corn been used to mask the size 14 hook. Quote
stoogi Posted April 16, 2013 Report Posted April 16, 2013 nobody said to use it with only maggots Have you read the original post.? Fake maggots were only mentioned as tip. Quote
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