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yep ! if i drunkenly stumble on anything this Christmas , besides the dog then i will post it up !

when i get some time to myself this Christmas im going to look at some ideas regarding mechanics , a way of deflecting the hook into the carps mouth before ejecting ,

long ago my parents thought it would be a good idea to fit a compton theatre organ in our house , we had the pipes and the blower in the attic and the organ downstairs , after months of fitting said organ it was finally turned on and the blower ,which weighed around half a tonne , when it finally got up to speed , shook the house so violently some of the upstairs walls started to crack so it had to be turned off , never to be used again ! what a laugh ! guess who helped us fit it and wire it up , Fred Dibnah !

i tried ace razorpoints , first fish i hooked it snapped , think it was size 4 , i can bend a size 4 with my fingers , not just a bit of flexing but bent , i test all my hooks by putting them in a vice putting a piece of thin metal tube down over the point and seeing how much resistance there is as i pull down , trying my best to replicate a hook hold , ace razorpoints were the weakest i tried

hmmmmm

I say again , can nobody produce a hook that we can use with confidence , or at least a little more confidence !

thanks everyone , ! I think I'm nearly there now , I'm trying to go through every scenario !

I think McLaren might be signing on soon !

yes , I have often thought , as I stand up ready to strike on those single or double beeps , but sit back down , "have I been had " and that was a carp ejecting my hook as it shot off shaking its head ! , I think now when I look back , that I'm more confident about not being done when I'm using a running rig ! How many of the single or double beeps though are bream or a tench picking the bait up but not the hook ,where the lead would usually pull from there mouths as they move off when using a fixed / semi fixed lead , I often wind in at night to get some kip , which I'm not that bothered about as it rests my swim and prepare for first light !

so do you think that you accounted for more big fish with running rigs on slack lines , this is where I was heading , from what ive read it could account for the older , bigger , wary carp , which have learnt how to eject a hook by using the lead weight !

have you ever fished washing line system on rivers to access opposite bankings under trees , I had a heron crash into it once , it went bonkers and shrieked like it was being murdered , it didn't get tangled , just startled it , and me

I remember loosing something huge when I fished across the flow , as it just kited with the flow straight to a snag , river lot , could of been a cat !

yep , it would be hard to fish slack lines in a river in the flow !, it would just create a large bow , when i fished a running rig on rivers in the flow , i always tightened up the slack , but out of the flow i did ! well , i try to pin everything to the bottom , sorry for that !

so , if i was fishing an area where the weed went out to around 20 meters , and i wanted to fish say 50 meters beyond where the weed finished , do you reckon that would be safe ?

I guess it would be a good idea to protect your knot ( on the swivel ) from the lead on the big chuck out !

no , I'm thinking of this for some of the large lakes I'm going to target ! , i have used it on some of the rivers ive fished , i try to go , when the flow is low , although , i will try , when its high , ! but its usually a struggle even with heavy leads , so , when its high , i stay on my local dammed section !

After watching numerous videos of carp using the lead to extract the hook by shaking their heads , i think I'm going to have a go this year at using running leads , fished on a slack line , i used this method long ago , as there was not much option , but not on a slack line ! i have often wondered how many times ive been done ! so , is it necessary to use the beads n bits that the manufacturers are saying are vital for this method , or just have the lead running free to your swivel , obviously the plastic bits manufacturers are worried that we might not need their overpriced bits ! sinking line , necessary ? i personally would like everything on the bottom I also think that with this method it would be vital for your hook to be as sharp as it could possibly be , as you are not relying on the lead to do the job just the weight of the line and water resistance , also i would like my bait / freebies to be spread as i want good movement after the pick up (distance ) to the next gob full to set the hook ! I do not expect to much publicity from the manufacturers , even if this is the best method of fishing , just imagine , not dropping the lead ( couldn't find the shock n horror imoji ) what say yee ?

Yep , I will give it a bash , there are a few places where I need to " hold bottom " in the flow where I'm going to use around 4 - 10 oz pebbles , easy = good , and it doesn't get much easier than wrapping a bit of plasticine round your swivel !

yep , found them , people also use a staple to make back leads !

CM , what about clay , where I fish its easy to get hold of a bit of clay , is with a lot of waters , I haven't looked at Chillys drop off , how old is it ?

I know its not a perfect test , better than nowt, you can notice the difference between hooks , I pull back using just the tip of my index finger !

absolutely chilly , everytime I go out I check everything ,tackle wise , I have only been let down by hooks over the last few years ,

I often search the images of carp hooks , to see if there is anything new out and to check the gauge of steel etc , I check them firstly by giving them the flex test by hand , then its in the vice and I have a 4 inch piece of steel tube that I pass down over the point , to the bend , then I pull the tube back to see how much pressure it takes to bend the hook , I obviously check the basics before I make my rigs , sharp burs on the eye , and I will sharpen if necessary ,

when I open a new pack I will test one of the hooks , always now , every pack one gets sacrificed , if someone brought a hook out and could guarantee it wouldn't open out I would part with £10 for 10 , even more ! when you look at the money with all your tackle , bait , prebaiting , and that feeling when you loose a big un after all that time and effort , so demoralising !

I have learnt from experience to test a hooks strength before it is put to use and if I feel its not strong enough , I do not hesitate , they go in the reject tub !