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I've never used a leader , never been in a position where i felt i needed one tbh BUT i've often wondered what material i would use and more importantly how i would attach it and this post explains it all very nicely so many thanks Hawk While we're on the subject of leaders i'm currently a fluorocarbon mainline user and although its all fine at the moment it IS a nightmare when its new as anyone who has respooled their reels with it will know . One of the reasons i've never used a leader is that it is another knot/weak point on the line and i never wanted to risk a fish towing it around in the event of a snap off . Are there any merits in the use of a short fluoro leader attached to mono mainline purely for camouflage purposes and sinking-near-to-the-business end properties ? If so , how short could you go with the leader in order to bring the above reasons into play yet at the same time NEVER put a Carp at risk ANY risk ?

I rest my case :)

Dal you old cynic

Failing that the good old Gardner muggas or gamakatsu sp204's

Well take him then . You wont be needing a landing net

Official disclaimer; I would like it to be known that i am completely distancing myself from this quote and anything similar on the forum. It has and is nothing whatsoever to do with me . Tim.

Now now Dal

Yep

Mark , this is in no way MY opinion at all but its the only thing i could see on the internet with regards shock leaders and leadcore . It would appear that , yes , leadcore rightly or wrongly does get used as a shock leader . Anyway here goes ; http://northwestcarp.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/leadcore-leader-carp-rigs.html?m=1

So many threads going off topic that im getting all me threads mixed up ffs ....

Cockney rejects are a punk/thug rock band mate , take a look at this :

I was at the game . Bunked off school for it . As for the icyeff , know em been there done that not something im proud of at all and rarely talk about .South bank and then later West side . Cockney Rejects blah blah blah etc That brings me to my latest purchase . Some name transfers and piping to personalise my B4's . I'm tackle tarting on a budget

Have a butchers at this; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav Cant imagine why these brats want to be someone they quite obviously are NOT . South central los angeles has a lot to answer for Without a sociology lecture , imo in the uk it goes back to the 80's terrace culture . All the boys over West ham & Chelsea would go football dressed like they were clubbing on a friday night and within a couple of years it had steadily spread north . Of course by that time the cockney boys had moved onto something else

I've no idea mate i use neither leaders nor leadcore so im clueless . Cyber does have a very strange sense of humour though . Just wait till yer birthday

Im guessing he is assuming the leadcore IS your leader ?

Quite right but no different to anybody else .

Quite right but no different to anybody else .

Believe it or not i actually agree with every word you said there . Going back to what you said about every DVD : TV programme being a marketing tool , that is why i was so pleasantly surprised by the Korda website mate . Although it "suggests" materials to use to make the rigs you would expect it from any company wouldnt you ? Only its easy to utilise any firms materials to suit and its this plus the clarity and detail which has reaaly impressed me so well done Danny boy

Jeeez

Thats a good shout Will . As Nick ( salok) always says , there is a certain amount of confusion as to what is meant by Safe Zone on some of their products . It refers to creating an area around the hookbsit that the fish find "safe" to feed in . Though of course you knew that

knew youd pick up on that lol

Quite right matey . Yours are like a legered reverse upside down zigged floater float

Hello mate do you mean the surface fishing things that keep the line off the surface and the hookbait ON ? If yes , i have the Gardner one and highly recommend it . If not then i have no idea what a suspender float is

Ok CM very well put mate and i see where your coming from .HOWEVER ( theres always a however ) if the Longbows were underpriced before then DF's endorsement makes the price about right then eh ? Clever Daiwa rather than gobbling DF Gobbling up the cash that is . :)

So you have the longbows that do NOT have the DF . Have i got that right CM ? If so have you used the ones that DO to compare ?