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Honest it is dead easy As simple and as basic as tying a knotless knot to a length of hooklink material and then putting a pop-up on the hair. You can use a stop knot or shot (personally rather not use shot though), and mould putty around it to get the pop-up balanced. The link referred to: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=22185

Best advice, DON'T buy any at all. There are loads of leadcore threads with the fors and against, but why use a product that adds extra risks into your fishing? In fact a product which lets you down every time you hook a fish

Test as in how they look and behave underwater? Or test as in how much strain they will take? Whatever you learn from a tank/bucket may well be different out in the depths of the pond, there are too many variables. The weed may affect the behaviour of the hookbait, the depth may affect the buoyancy of a pop-up or the lakebed may "clog up" how a hook is taken in in relation to the bait. In most cases the best rig is the most simple knotless knotted hook with a hair; usually a continuation of the hooklink material The Palm or Over the Thumb Tests will only teach you what you think you want to know ; That the hook goes in and will flip over or will drag into the fishes mouth. The real test is whether it produces fish on the bank. From that look at each hookhold and see if anything needs changing. If the hook is at the extreme edge of the lips or you are getting hookpulls then lengthen the hair and/or rig length. If at the back of the mouth then shorten either or both. If the hook is dead centre of the bottom lip then you have it pretty much spot on. If you are testing for breaking strain, then simply tie your knots and put as much strain as you can on the knots, being careful NOT to hook yourself in the process. I tie a knot in my hooklink be it at hook end or swivel/quick link and put the hook in the eye of a pair of forceps and pull as hard as I can. The swivel is then tied to the mainline and I do the same to that to check it.

Cross purposes maybe, but think about the Spinlink or other clip lead attachment at the end of the leadcore or leader splice. Spliced loop into leadlink of whatever sort, now go up a little bit. Remove Lead attachment, and bottom bead/rubber will now slide down over the self spliced loop, and above that you have your rig, which will now also slide down over the loop. Slide on fresh rig, bead/rubber, attach lead link of whatever type back into the splice via loop to loop method and there you have a fairly quick change rig set up. Does that now make sense? A good splice will never give way (I can in fact make spliced hooklinks in some braided hooklinks with no knots )

I'm not advocating leadcore, but think about a large spliced loop at the lead end of a braided leader Works with heli set-ups to hold a lead, through a (sea fishing) spinlink clip and lead onto that, or with the braided leader to hold a rig swivel If you make up your PVA mesh/stick with rig attached then hook in at the base next to the knot, push swivel through the top end of the mesh as you knot it, although you may end up with glob of dissolved PVA on hooklink Or have a rig longer than your tube, hook in first (bait can be attached before or after if you pull the hair outside the mesh with a (Gardner) baiting needle) and the swivel outside the top end, but push the PVA filling down alongside the rig and you would knot the top end anyway. Does that help any?

That £125/24 hours was for the whole lake, not per angler, so it may be a bit more value if you work it out Also don't forget Suffolk Water Park (£20 for 24hours), I know that there is a big thread around on that, I should also have a complete map with most of the depths marked, (also some of the spots that I caught fish from ), but again it does get very busy at times from Easter onwards. Toilets, showers and a good cafe all help, but its not that easy Linear and those Oxfordshire waters will also have a few threads dedicated to them on here. To be honest I gave up on Day Ticket/Holiday style lakes because of the crowds and cost and just spent my money on a Season Ticket. If I want to do a week at a time (which I tend to do as much as I can by putting too much work in) I just go there. Nick

I did have a quick search using the term "Fishing Holiday", and Waveney Valley, Marsh Farm, Yew Tree, and Taverham seem to come up a fair bit on the threads it pulled up However if you book on Marsh, Heartsmere or Yew Tree I believe that you are booked into a particular swim for the duration, it may be worth double checking with them. I had a look around a few years ago (5 or 6 ) and actually fished Yew Tree, it did get a bit mad and crowded, although at the time Marsh and Heartsmere were quieter lakes. Since then Heartsmere has started producing 30's; I think often to casting to the far bank. On Yew Tree, pellets over Trigga produced plenty of fish, including a few Cats.

Peperami, basically a trade name of a processed meaty sausage Chorizo, salami pretty much all the same thing. I've used peperami, but don't catch many on it, since I seem to end up eating the stuff

The problem as I nicely put in an earlier post That includes people who have no idea of the actual difficulties on fishing such a lake, people who haven't fished anywhere else (there isn't much else in the area to be fair) and people who simply don't know or care. I've retrieved leaders and rigs that would never allow a fish to get rid of the leader, the hook or the lead. and in that weed, it would be a tethered fish, so a leader ban would be sensible. There are no major areas you can't fish to, Peg 1, don't cast beyond the lilies, pretty obvious that, trying to pull a fish back through that lot would or could cause a mouthy mess, and no casting beyond halfway in the road and road side of the point swims to reduce anglers getting into each others area. No Bait Boats from Peg13 (?), I think I know why if it is the end of the point; very heavily weeded, yet at long range out (120+) in front is a rather nice gravel plateau that boats were being used to drop baits. Try to play a fish back through that lot and again, a mess. Suffolk Water Park definitely holds what it is reputed to, a number of 30lb fish, a few doubles and a number of 20's. I spent enough time walking around and fishing it. They won't remove the weed, it is what makes the lake so rich in food, absolutely full of snails and other creatures. Trevor wanted to be a lot stricter in rules, but some forces above him were only out to make a little bit of coin. Trevor has now left, and Simon too, and rules are being put in to ensure the protection of the fish. The rules are being put in to protect the stocks, and for once to hell with the anglers. If they lose fish, they lose anglers, but at the same time, if they lose the idiots from being more protective with tighter rules, then good! If you think that if a 20lb Carp dies, it would cost around £500 to replace it, double that cost for a 30! So for a fishery to lose approximately 5 fish over the past few years, its over £1500 to replace stocks. Does anyone or any business have that sort of money to put in new stock? Add to that you can only stock at specific times of the year, and the fact that a stocked fish may have been put under stress and die itself, or if moved from elsewhere may actually bring in something else disease wise that could wipe out the whole fishery. Yes I know that SWP have the means to move fish from lake to lake (and the Section 30's) as they are a registered fish farm and have their own stock ponds. Looking at the website, allowing for the change the rules aren't that restrictive:

I "dredged" the thread up for a reason, a new member was asking about the lake, and I gave a link to it in his welcome thread. I also knew about Grey Tail, but not totally the reason behind her death (she was an old fish as well ) and was supposedly found tethered attached to a leader. Keeping away from pressure can be a total impossibility. I've been past (and fished) when every peg is taken, in which case unless the fish decide to play ball, you actually may as well pack up and go home. The prices have also changed (and for the better), with a 3 rod limit now in place, £20 for 24 hours. For full rules, prices and everything else: http://www.suffolkwaterpark.com/default.htm

I simply can't get an overhand knot down tight to the end of (pva) mesh, down to badly mishaped past broken fingers. So instead of pulling it down tight, I cut a notch from the top of the filling to the end of the mesh outwards (if that makes sense), and then double overhand knot the mesh. The 1st knot pulls into the top of the filling and then the second knot secures it.

Lenton Lakes fishery consists of two very different lakes which sit side by side on a site just off the A1 near Brampton, Cambs. The site is about 1/2 mile from Brampton centre, which contains a supermarket, and a couple of takeaways. There is a clean toilet on site during the summer months, and the owner or one of the bailiffs is there every day. Carp baits may be purchased including the sites own brand " SIMPLY CARP " together with the complete range of Heathrow Bait Services products. Although the original lake ( locally known as the A1 pit ) has been in existence for some 40 years or more the lease to the site was only acquired by the current owner in April this year, who has embarked on an ambitious programme designed to make the site one of the best carp/ mixed fisheries in the area. The smaller of the two lakes, LENTON ONE, is a very picturesque lake of approx three acres. it is surrounded by mature trees and bushes, and has two small islands in the middle. there are 28 pegs all of which are big enough to take a bivvy. Having been restocked in Febuary 2011 this lake now contains around three hundred mixed carp up to 26 lbs, bream to 12 lb, tench to 7 lb, along with a good mix of roach, rudd, and perch. The depths vary from 8/9 feet at the end nearest to the road to around 16 feet at the far end. The bottom is almost entirely silt, with no under water snags and hardly any weed. The water does tend to be rather clear at times. LENTON TWO ( formerly the A1 pits ) is a very different kettle of fish. This water will appeal to the hard core carp man and "stalker " and is currently very much an unknown quantity. For well over ten years the lake has been totally neglected, and has hardly been fished at all. As a consequence parts of it remind one of the Amazon, and no one really knows just what monsters lurk in its depths. Although this is one piece of water its contains lots of islands, jetty’s, etc, so in reality it’s a quantity of individual pools which are all joined together. The depths range from 4 feet to 9 feet, and in parts the water is quite snaggy. the bottom has some good gravel areas together with some heavy silt. the lake also contains very large areas of lilies during the summer months. The lake currently has a total of 19 swims, most of which are large enough for a bivvy, but these are being added to all the time. Now for the important part, THE FISH . The largest carp caught in 2010 was a 37 lb common, with a tench at 11 lb and a bream at slightly over 14 lb. This lake also contains roach, rudd, perch, some very large pike, and for those who are interested, some very, very large eels. Individuals considering fishing this lake are requested to contact the owner, who will arrange to meet you on site and show you around. Lenton Lakes do have a comprehensive website detailing the fisheries, rules, contact details and ticket prices. http://www.lentonlakes.co.uk In fact the owner has very kindly offered Carp.com members a complimentary day ticket, please contact him via PM, his username on the forum is adrianarnett

Try having a look at Taverham Mills: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=46858

I think you will find Grey Tail is no more. Pegs 1 - 6 can produce in the summer, especially if you know the swims. Peg 1 faces onto a large bay, with a lily bed halfway up into it. You CANNOT cast beyond the lilies unless you would like to be asked to leave! The fish do swim tight to the land opposite on right hand side of the swim, and I have also gotten them feeding in the margins, and taking floaters from the left hand side of the swim. Peg 2 and 3 face onto a corner and 4 and 5 into another bay, where the fish can congretate at times. Peg 6 is opposite a nicely wooded area, but there are a few gravel areas to find where the fish come out from. The fish do swim up and down that arm of the lake, and a Zig rig as mentioned can and will work, and the fish do hang around the weedbeds along the near margins at times as well. I have been in the lake clearing weed so I could even cast out, and within minutes I have had fish "sniffing" around my feet as I was actually weed clearing. The catches get written up on a noticeboard outside the office/shop, and when I looked on Friday there were only about 10 captures on it with the biggest fish at 32lbs.

A short list of Norfolk Waters: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=46858

Yes, and in most cases work a whole lot better than a Chod style set-up Something that may interest you http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=49225

really? I thought the idea was the line below the chod sank into the muck and left the mainline at the chod free. The way you say it the bait would be hanging off the back of a mini flagpole in the silt - I dunno I like that method! A case of fish being caught despite the rig set-up

I'm not a fan of quick links, and won't use them. All my PVA bag rigs are pretty standard, and if I put the hooklink inside the bag always made of braid Knotless knotted or line aligned hook tied to swivel, length dependant on how I feel the fish are feeding. While a short hooklink is pretty standard it is one thing that you can play around with. As much as I like a balanced or buoyant bait at times, the hookbait wafting up and around can leave you with a hooklink sticking out, whereas if it is camouflaged under a pile of food as a bottom bait usually ends up it may not be so obvious. Are these any use? http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=27183 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32920

http://www.leevalleypark.org.uk/en/content/cms/leisure/angling/north_met_pit/north_met_pit.aspx

Posts like this make my day, Thank You Something else for you, that I didn't think of at the time; A pop-up rig in most cases I would fish the bait tight to the hook shank, whether the fish suck in or mouth the bait you want the 2 close together to be taken in, yet with a bottom bait you may find that a large separation is better

Good advice from zammo. If the answer is no, or maybe...don't be afraid to experiment. It's interesting that you are having one on pop up and one on bottom baits. Generally choose one or other. If you don't have debris, weed, silt on the bottom there no need to have a pop up... They just look odd. by all means have something buoyant in the rig to make the bottom bait critically balanced...but don't have it floating three inches above the deck Equally if you have all of the above, try a pop up to present over the top of it. But don't feel you need a pop up just because the mags say you should use a pop rig. I re tied all of my rods today co incidentally ready for the spring period. I have one ready for maggots (supple braid) one ready for a balanced bait (flouro to braid combi) and a chod as a roving bait. The first two will be fished over bait and the chod will be a single that I cast at showing fish. By May I will re tie them all again, as i change my approach as the water heats up. On both my rods I will use the same type of rigs as I used last year, and neither will be a pop-up rig (snowman maybe ). The rigs I used 2 years ago produced fish that hadn't been caught before or for a long time, from pressured swims and were different to other anglers, and I will use the same style all the way through the year. The one thing I will say, don't confuse yourself with rigs, in most cases a standard knotless knotted rig will work, for bottom baits and pop-ups, although if the fish are getting away with it (or not getting a good hookhold), then a play with rig, hair length or line aligner setup may be beneficial. That standard rig will produce loads of fish, the thing you have to get right is the feeding situation. Just because a lake may be silty does not mean that you have to use a chod rig It may well present a bait above the silt, but why would you want to do that when the fish actually feed in it? Same as why present a bait in the silt if they prefer to feed on top of it? A blatant pop-up can be a danger signal to some fish, thats whether it is a hi visibility or overflavoured bait, or even a food source pop-up. It may be that you are fishing a pop-up above their heads when they are comfortably feeding on the deck. A carp may well not know that the bait is 5centimetres above the lakebed, but if its mouth is down on the lakebed it may well not even take it as its not where it is feeding. Yet if you have a high amount of weed with food trapped at various heights in the weed growth the carp will take a pop-up at whatever height

Totally slack on the lakebed going into every trough and crevice and still running slack to the end tackle? NO! Leadcore does not go into every crevice, it is not supple enough, and fished on a tight line will be lifting up to the rod tip in an arc, same with tubing, even with flying backleads or putty, in fact you can be lifting the putty up if you have the line at all taut. If you want tubing, mainline or that poxy leadcore to just lay flat along the lakebed then you will need a slack line If there are any lifts then you may as well accept that by tightening up with a backlead, putty or anything then the line will be pulled tight over that emergant feature.

I think everyone and his dog know my views on Leadcore (I hate the stuff), but I have to give the option for people to choose. I can definitely see the side on bead in this instance, and Beanz and I have had a discussion about another rig published where a bead appeared to be pierced sideways (it wasn't). I think that that is in itself part of the "instant" problem, the relative ease of which the Chod rig is seen as the be all and end all answer to carp fishing. The actual rig I wanted Danny to look at was this one: Helicopter Silt Rig Set-UP: It then gives the option of using a leadcore or fluoro leader if required (which as most seem to agree is not), or tubing, which as long as all the beads and swivel should be able to slide up and over any knot the fish is not trailing any dangerous tackle which may cause a tethering in the event of a break-off

Si, I'm glad the dog is ok, don't beat yourself up over it, these things happen, just from a moments "inattention" a dog can do all manner of things. There is a good note in all this though, you know that your bait will work, although I have found cats to be even better bait testers than dogs who often eat absolutely anything *edited for typo*

Danny, Please, can you use the search facility a little bit http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=36456 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37603 The top thread is entitled Chod Rigs, and is in the Stickies section, with a link to some lead set-ups, which is the 2nd link I have given