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thanks stevo that's the reply I needed to hear im a large chap myself thanks all for the replys

Yup... Tackle manufacturers are pretty good at making money... even the angling media take the pee out of employees too... when you think that Angling generates £3.7bn of commerce in this country it's not hard to see how... with fisheries, licences, employees, manufacturers, bait firms, charnel houses, etc.... and we as anglers pay for the privilege one way or another

What about the stoves that were mentioned on here a while back that were twice the price if they had a Trakker logo... there's lots of camping stuff that gets ripped off by tackle manufacturers and a hefty premium added to the price... swings and roundabouts Yonny... swings and roundabouts...👍😎

No problem I've just brought 3 with brand new dpf line so I'm well chuffed paid a 100 pound

They do totally copy designs I do agree but didn't korda borrow the idea of the lead clip from Nash ? Isnt It all just reinventing the wheel these days ?

That's not really fair lads. Korda designed both products, came up with the materials, determined how they could be made, designed tooling, and went through all the prototype phases. That is a process that takes many, many months and costs a hell of a lot. I know that because the company I work for design and manufacture products. NGT then essentially steal the designs (they can't be patented) and have them made for as cheap as possible to undercut them. So it's not really a case of NGT simply buying from the same factory, they are taking advantage of others hard work to make a quick buck for themselves.

Another is the Korda singles vs NGT singles Korda £250+ NGT £30+

NOT GOOD TACKLE

I do tend to research everything I buy nowadays and if it isn't up to scratch I wouldnt buy it and there are items that I agree you will buy twice if they are no good, My worst piece of tackle at present is my old Nash viper in usage terms it isn't that old but the poles have started weakening and a storm pole just snapped last time I was out it was about £200 when I got it all those years ago so not cheap but it's on my list of things to replace dissapointed with it really and wouldn't buy another and actually tend to avoid Nash stuff now as a consequence

I tend to agree. I always do some serious research before buying anything. My objective is to buy the absolute best on the market for my kind of fishing (which is usually the mobile approach which means I need light, compact, and hard wearing gear). Sometimes it happens to be the most expensive, sometimes it's a cheaper alternative, either way I won't let price deter me from buying the best. Ultimately if what you buy isn't the best for you, you'll eventually end up replacing it regardless of whether it goes wrong or breaks. Imo the cheapest way in the long run is just to save the extra pennies and buy what you consider to be the best from the off.

Everything I've bought from NGT has been disgracefully poor quality. I used their snag ears and the thread stripped/ear cam flying off on the first take when I was fishing locked up to a snag tree. I was lucky to keep the rod, let alone land the fish. They're not fit for purpose and frankly dangerous for the fish. Tried their leads and one came off the swivel on the first cast. Tried their butt rests, the threads were all different lengths. I am not going anywhere near NGT stuff again. Funny you say that as the one thing I've heard good reports of is their 4 pc travel rod. It's supposed to be decent and it's dead cheap. I'm still not going near it though,

Like to see a curve in end section, bit straight for me

The whole physics of the rig dictates it wont slide unless pressure is put on hook point. So casting is no problem