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I know a few waters that did have Leney fish in, or one that more correctly Redmire progeny, but once stocked they reproduced with other strains, so a mix of Italian, Dinkselbuehl and Galicians/Leneys. Sadly old age and otters may well have made them extinct in Taverham Mills. This one was caught back in the 1990's, and comes complete with porn star moustache... It was one of the fish legitimately bought from Redmire when there was a successful spawning. You would have to see the Chris Ball and Chris Yates diary of stockings that they got from Donald Leney to see. As you say, not many originals around now, and quite possibly they have regressed. The ones that became records in Redmire were original stocked fish.

I decided to start making bait for myself recently, now I've got a lot of the bits I needed I thought I would start with some hookbaits. Not perfectly round but good enough 😂 1egg, liquid preserve, 5ml creamy scopex, Betaine, milk B and butterscotch sweetener. Pop ups are mainline polaris dyed yellow and wafters are AA Baits pink wafter mix + a bit of tropamino basemix as I run out of wafter mix whilst mixing. I think the wafters turned out better and actually came out fairly round, both do what are they meant too when attached to a rig so that's good, now air drying and will give them a splash of extra flavour once they are dried,then all I've got to do another time is match the hatch hookbaits and start rolling kilos and kilos of boilies. Don't think I'll buy polaris again though will get some AA Baits pop up mix next time. I've also been using Copilot to make up loads of recipes, I've got 20kg of tropamino basemix to use up first though. But I've started down the rabbit hole.

I am assuming not many (any) waters have these now? If there are they are deff under the radar now I suspect. I did have the pleasure of catching some of the beauties back in the day from Horseshoe 😀👍 Apparently this guy is still trying to keep the strain going: https://www.leneycarp.com/ Does it matter? probably not tbh, but fair play to the bloke 👍

small update corus are still selling 1kg packs of nut cluster on ebay so picked up 3 packs, i still have about 5 kg in store so this will last me a good few sessions, i only do days as a rule and dont tend to put a lot of bait in

Tell that to Charlie Dally.....lol

Just fork out £20 for a tub of magic beans mate..... all your worries will be over! 😂

Bait…. the most argued part of fishing apart from “what’s the best alarm” welcome in

To be fair I'd rather be on fish with a tub of black foam than be miles away from the carp with the best bait in the world!😁

Bait – by far the most important aspect! What use is location and presentation if they won’t actually pick up your enticements?

Welcome to Carp.com Bait, guaranteed to do your head in, send you round in circles and up your own....

Hi Dave, welcome, get stuck in on here it's always good to have some fresh topics

Welcome. Its a bit quiet lately, but there's a few good gents that have helped me out over the years. @elmoputney is all about bait atm

Just joined, more a browser than anything else, interested in bait, less in tackle or methods so will watch and listen. Hello everyone.

Anglian water have a huge one in the pipeline. But it’s not started yet so funding may disappear. Similar to the Cambridge relocation. can imagine whatever has happened is very major and something they won’t want to admit publicly. The storm excuse is a cop out imo. It happened around our way ages ago at Pitsford, dead rabbit in one of the chambers, had to shut off and drain, sterilise and refill the entire system. The intermittent water supply will be because they are pumping potable water from tankers in to the system, hence a bit of stop start as pressure fluctuates. The entire situation will cost them tens, in not hundreds of millions at least. One thing I will note, developers only pay for direct infrastructure. Bill money is meant to pay for the rest which is wildly unfeasible. Wouldn’t be surprised if they start getting charged for the site upgrades soon too. House prices might rocket or development slows though! btw I work in part of the industry so see the costs of things and whilst I can’t reveal much, a housing development of 3000 homes paying £1,200 a year won’t touch the sides on the upgrades or new works to deal with the flows.

Condition are looking really good for Friday down here, shame the cars off the road 😂

We are an island surrounded by water global water means water levels rising why are we not investing in and building desalination plants we can drink water back to correct levels.publicly owned so the criminal water boards can’t make obscene profits. would also look good on the green agenda 👍

From what I understand,no new reservoirs have been built for around 40 years. Put that to the increase in population and demand, it's disgraceful that our most precious resource has been run for profit of investors. 6 days without water. Apparently due to a storm preventing sufficient treatment, along with the frost causing pipes to leak. Strange how weather is all of a sudden an issue?? They'd of blamed Bexit if they thought we'd believe it

Good luck mate 🤞

Might work!

Perfect timing..... my first sesh of the year on Friday!

Love the updates, especially the bit about the Albino Grassie. Seeing your journey really gave me the final push to stock up my own pond this month. I just placed an order with Next Day Koi. I trust them because they were the first online retailer to offer a 14-day worry-free guarantee, which takes a lot of the stress out of buying online. Since they’re the original pros at next-day shipping, I know the fish will land in great shape. Can't wait to see Whopper hit that 30lb mark!

Good try mate, but you're facing milder temps, winds from the South and by Friday it will be 988 pressure, DEFFO should give it a go if you can, seems bang on TBH I should be on a work party Saturday, may do the night after.

Hi Kev. A tackle shop on their facebook post has pointed out that Weds. - Friday the air pressure is dropping , but not a super low ?, so I'll probably stay home in the warm safe from the rain , and the mud . 😁

Agree that investment has lacked but can’t say they don’t invest at all. I’m part of a £5billion portfolio…which does need an extra 2b to deliver fully. that’s over 5yrs. Most of that is to just keep up with either tightening regulations or demand from development. The underinvestment in the 80s/90s isn’t rectifiable now. Not quickly anyway. Even if the money was there, the workforce isn’t. It’s catch up and plasters to the tune of enormous sums of money. whatever’s happening with your water company is shocking. Be interesting to know exactly what the issue is. Must be major to be offline for so long!

another go for 2hrs today, another blank! My little girl had a fair few roach and rudd though.