Specialized Hookbaits

[OldBoy]

20 hours ago, elmoputney said:

It's written on the website. 

I so wish a mate hadn't said about SHB as a Xmas pressie.... wouldn't have even thought about them before 😂

However, as you suggested, from the website.

Quote:

"We are often asked why our hook baits do not come in bright colours, as that is what people generally associate with a pop up. A bright colour may provoke a response from twenty feet, we would far rather provoke a response from 200 yards through a carp’s amazing sense of taste. "

Err.... 

I see all, but one are now in bright colours, seriously, who do you believe? 👍 

Shame people selling stuff on line actually checked stuff on their web sites 😂

[elmoputney]

20 minutes ago, OldBoy said:

I so wish a mate hadn't said about SHB as a Xmas pressie.... wouldn't have even thought about them before 😂

However, as you suggested, from the website.

Quote:

"We are often asked why our hook baits do not come in bright colours, as that is what people generally associate with a pop up. A bright colour may provoke a response from twenty feet, we would far rather provoke a response from 200 yards through a carp’s amazing sense of taste. "

Err.... 

I see all, but one are now in bright colours, seriously, who do you believe? 👍 

Shame people selling stuff on line actually checked stuff on their web sites 😂

The colour doesn't affect the process which is what you were questioning originally though. I guess it makes them more saleable as most pop ups are bright. I take it you have read the part about the process though? 

Also you are now calling them liars, even though you don't really care. 😂 

31 minutes ago, OldBoy said:

tbh, mate, none, so many out there, wouldn't have any idea? ..... If anyone is interested I have a few tubs of Sticky baits pop ups that I use very rarely and they still work

So you can't recommend any but having not tried them you are keen to slate specialized hook baits.  

Also you spelt your best mates name wrong It's Bryan Jarrett. 😉 

[OldBoy]

28 minutes ago, Serenity said:

Is this the right room for an arguement? LOL

 

obviously not mate 👍

 

47 minutes ago, elmoputney said:

So you can't recommend any but having not tried them you are keen to slate specialized hook baits.  

Also you spelt your best mates name wrong It's Bryan Jarrett. 😉 

I did suggest Sticky baits, as for Byran Jarret. read my post, not my best mate at all 😂

As for calling someone a liar... did you actually read the comments on the website about not using coloured hookbaits?

Believe what you want?

Best wrap this up now, don't want to turn it into an arguement, anyone can see what is on the website, bit of an obvious U turn

[greekskii]

17 minutes ago, OldBoy said:

As for calling someone a liar... did you actually read the comments on the website about not using coloured hookbaits?

Obviously you’ve not seen the hookbaits yourself. None of them are bright colours, like fluoros. The coloured ones are pretty muted. The white is an off white, washed out pink, yellow is a dull yellow, even the orange isn’t fluoro and washes out pretty quick as orange always does. So depends on what your definition is of “bright” is. 

they’ve also sold hookbaits that are white, yellow and Red for years and years. 

Whatever grievance you have with SHB, you’ve not seen the hookbaits, used them nor know much about them despite what has been posted by SHB themselves. Kinda makes anything you’re saying moot tbh. zero credibility in trying to put people off using SHB. 
 

im sure you’ll be back here in a year under a different username or on the other forum saying the same things once again, all whilst the hookbaits are catching fish up and down the country all year round for thousands of anglers. 

[elmoputney]

36 minutes ago, OldBoy said:

obviously not mate 👍

 

I did suggest Sticky baits, as for Byran Jarret. read my post, not my best mate at all 😂

As for calling someone a liar... did you actually read the comments on the website about not using coloured hookbaits?

Believe what you want?

Best wrap this up now, don't want to turn it into an arguement, anyone can see what is on the website, bit of an obvious U turn

Yes I read the comments, I still don't get why you don't like a product you've never used. It seems personal rather than logical. 

Sticky hookbaits are alright but I wouldn't say they are head and shoulders above anything else out there. 

[salokcinnodrog]

On 17/02/2026 at 11:57, elmoputney said:

That's a can of worms Kev, I'm sure someone will be able to assist but I used Co pilot to try and understand bio active ingredients a bit better. Still don't properly but this is something I learned which may help 😱 😂 

 

Funny thing is that many freezer baits become bio-active by a simple process called efflorescence, where salts and sugars come to the surface of the boilie. It is why some baits are more effective after a couple of days out of the freezer.

 

There were a number of bio-active ingredients, from meat meals to milk products, to pineapple juice (bromelain).

 

[salokcinnodrog]

8 hours ago, OldBoy said:

I know certain members have respect for this bloke but from another forum:

 

I'm not trying to turn anyone into a gambler. But if you fancy a punt at Cheltenham next week.... This is your horse below IMO. This is a post to my friends from my personal social media.

Apparently he can get us all rich now!

@salokcinnodrog

Sorry, shouldn't have posted this from another place... ban me if you want to. but really as a 'respected' by some for expensive baits producer... why do this on an open forum?

Before any one jumps to his defense, I do not have ANY grudge against the person, just amazes me how someone can apparently be so dominate elsewhere....

Hopefully will never happen here?

I'm not a gambler, and after certain incidents I wouldn't put anything his way. It's on my personal avoid list of tackle and bait brands.

 

Funny thing is some of my big earning catering jobs used to be at Tattersall's in Newmarket, and the Newmarket Equine Centre who used to run a charity dinner, where I met Frankie Dettori and Derek Thompson the racing commentator.

About 6months later I then used one of my days off my full time restaurant manager job to do an agency job at Chelmsford race course, where I was working the 'cheap seats', the beer wagon, and Derek Thompson came round with the outside broadcast camera and sound crew and greeted me like an old friend.

Now my only vice is the occasional drink, I stretched to a whole pint of Adnams with my lunch today.

 

Thing is we can look at pop-ups, bright yellow, white, bright pink, fluoro orange, all have worked for me, as have washed out pink, standard orange, green and white, blue, brown, red and black.

 

[commonly]

So, after all that, which SHB's should i try for the social lads??

 

Sorry to go off topic, but, we'll, you know!

[framey]

I noticed my name got mentioned in one of those links for some reason lol.

close the thread and let’s get back to being an SHB free zone 

 

hey Elmo 

have you rolled any today ?

 

 

 

 

[commonly]

Elmo 

have you rolled any today ?

I hope you're not trying to jump the queue ???

Im still awaiting my order of SHB's

 

[greekskii]

1 hour ago, commonly said:

So, after all that, which SHB's should i try for the social lads??

 

Sorry to go off topic, but, we'll, you know!

Any of them! 

[elmoputney]

2 hours ago, framey said:

I noticed my name got mentioned in one of those links for some reason lol.

close the thread and let’s get back to being an SHB free zone 

 

hey Elmo 

have you rolled any today ?

 

 

 

 

No but I did get a delivery from AA Baits, wafter mix today, need to make a batch with egg albumen because they are too soft without. Also got some glycerin to make a hookbait soak if that helps 😂

Then I am going to do a special process to the hookbaits shhhh it's still a secret. 

[Old_Skool_Carper]

12 hours ago, elmoputney said:

No but I did get a delivery from AA Baits, wafter mix today, need to make a batch with egg albumen because they are too soft without. Also got some glycerin to make a hookbait soak if that helps 😂

Then I am going to do a special process to the hookbaits shhhh it's still a secret. 

 

 

Here's ya secret to the BEST pop ups in the WORLD, that i discovered recently from talking to a secret blackhat Carp fisherman on a HUGE 200 acre Gravel Pit lol!

 

1 egg mix: 

 

For best results NO Cheating!

 

for 2 weeks coat ya cork balls in egg white only! 

 

add the following to ya 1 egg mix: : Thaumatin  -  Citric acid  - Butterfat

 

store in the fridge for exactly 27 hrs! 

 

now take ya liquid and mix ya paste, now store in fridge for 7 days, then coat ya cork balls & make popups, back in fridge for 7 days...

 

...now finally remove the baits and coat 'em in pure Citric acid, boil for exactly 69 seconds, dry for exactly 29 hrs, now the BIG SECRET...*microbial inhibition!

 

BUT sorry i can NOT tell ya *that cos then YOU will discover how the carp can detect ya pop-ups from 1.2 miles away! 

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Old_Skool_Carper

[salokcinnodrog]

Sadly I have had to do a bit of an edit, so this thread doesn't read as well as I had to take out a few debatable posts.

 

We can get back to specialised hookbaits, what makes them work?

Is it the flavour combination, the attractor package, or additional ingredients, even the ph of the lake or in that area?

We keep going round in circles, and its possible that glycerine is an attractor, or maybe the flavour itself, be it spicy or the base of a product.

Vanillin, iso-eugenol, glycerine, black pepper oil, garlic oil, bromelain or n-butyric acid all have their place, maybe even lemon juice or citric acid or flavours containing terpenes

[greekskii]

4 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said:

Sadly I have had to do a bit of an edit, so this thread doesn't read as well as I had to take out a few debatable posts.

 

We can get back to specialised hookbaits, what makes them work?

Is it the flavour combination, the attractor package, or additional ingredients, even the ph of the lake or in that area?

We keep going round in circles, and its possible that glycerine is an attractor, or maybe the flavour itself, be it spicy or the base of a product.

Vanillin, iso-eugenol, glycerine, black pepper oil, garlic oil, bromelain or n-butyric acid all have their place, maybe even lemon juice or citric acid or flavours containing terpenes

If you tidied it up, why did you leave old skool carpers post which is clearly a troll post? 
 

back to SHB, the entire premise of these hookbaits is that they work due to fermentation and active processes within the creation of them, or that occurs as they age. 
Secrets not shared as why would he. 
 

guess it doesn’t matter why they work if you aren’t trying to replicate it. Like with most products you use them because they work and that’s about it!