elmoputney Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 I seem to be going through more splicing needles than I catch fish at the moment. I've recently broken 4 or 5 trying to make some leaders and as the pic shows I've tried a few 😂 3 thinking anglers ones ( not good ) Avid retracta (broke easily) Fox blue( lasted a while) Other one was just another broken needle I had lying about but it makes more of a case as I have got through an awful lot lately. I don't think i am particularly ham fisted and have made leaders before. Can anyone recommend a bulletproof fine latch needle that's good for splicing and won't just break please ? Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 I’ve always used the ESP ones mate, they come several in a pack and I’ve got one or two that have lasted years. The korda ones have done me well, but something so fine wire will break sooner or later I reckon elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, ouchthathurt said: I’ve always used the ESP ones mate, they come several in a pack and I’ve got one or two that have lasted years. The korda ones have done me well, but something so fine wire will break sooner or later I reckon Thanks not sure I've tried the esp or korda ones so I may give them a go 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 The esp ones are good the fox ones in the link are currently the ones I use haven’t broken one yet https://tacklebox.co.uk/terminal-tackle/rigs-and-rig-accessories/fox-edges-easy-splice-needle/ elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, framey said: The esp ones are good the fox ones in the link are currently the ones I use haven’t broken one yet https://tacklebox.co.uk/terminal-tackle/rigs-and-rig-accessories/fox-edges-easy-splice-needle/ Thanks I did use an easy splice one for a while but I bent it all out of shape and couldn't get it back lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 I have ordered 3 esp ones and both the korda ones I could find see how long those ones last me 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 Iv always used the esp ones but sooner or later they snap, maybe that’s why they sell them in packs of 3 🤔 iv used the Wychwood splicing needle lately and find it a bit more robust than the esp, thicker in the wire but it work’s better for it. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, elmoputney said: Thanks I did use an easy splice one for a while but I bent it all out of shape and couldn't get it back lol What you going through brick lol have you tried the Keith moors knot it’s a knotless knot for leadcore Edited April 4, 2023 by framey Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, framey said: What you going through brick lol have you tried the Keith moors knot it’s a knotless knot for leadcore It seems to have got worse since i bought some korda stuff rather than the Gardner leader i was using, I will have a look at the knot though 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 Have you tried the easy splice? https://tacklebox.co.uk/terminal-tackle/rigs-and-rig-accessories/fox-edges-easy-splice-needle/ elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 I use the esp ones with korda leadcore mate, without any issues, one thing I do after removing the lead wire section prior to splicing the loop is pinch the end of the leadcore and above the break of the lead wire and loosen the braided section up, that way it splices easier. elmoputney and Danny Hearn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Hearn Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 04/04/2023 at 16:27, ouchthathurt said: I’ve always used the ESP ones mate, they come several in a pack and I’ve got one or two that have lasted years. The korda ones have done me well, but something so fine wire will break sooner or later I reckon Sounds like your the leadcore splicing don making 1 last a few years 🤣. Last time I had a leadcore leader splicing session I snapped 2 out of 3 brand new esp needles in 10 mins, after that I was a bit more gentle took my time and got back into the swing of it and managed to make the last one last a whole spool of leadcore. I banged up a load of Korda hybrid Qc lead clips on 1 meter leaders but now I decided I like using the Korda heli safes more so it’s time for another session because I don’t really want them to be shorter than a meter, but this time I have bought an ngt stainless steel splicing needle looks a lot lot tougher I will share my opinion on it when i get to work ouchthathurt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Hearn Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 08/04/2023 at 00:03, Danny Hearn said: Sounds like your the leadcore splicing don making 1 last a few years 🤣. Last time I had a leadcore leader splicing session I snapped 2 out of 3 brand new esp needles in 10 mins, after that I was a bit more gentle took my time and got back into the swing of it and managed to make the last one last a whole spool of leadcore. I banged up a load of Korda hybrid Qc lead clips on 1 meter leaders but now I decided I like using the Korda heli safes more so it’s time for another session because I don’t really want them to be shorter than a meter, but this time I have bought an ngt stainless steel splicing needle looks a lot lot tougher I will share my opinion on it when i get to work Sadly the Ngt needle too thick for the Korda leadcore I am using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 22 hours ago, Danny Hearn said: Sadly the Ngt needle too thick for the Korda leadcore I am using Korda one seems to work quite well so far, bought some korda durakord, that seems to be nice and easy to splice I made a few up today without any fuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell3 Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just bought a pack of three by thinking angler had to look at the tips as one pack was already carrying a broken one look a bit thin but I only need them to tie a few very short leadcore leaders 8 to 12 Ince for a inline set up just enough so the mainline is not kicking up at the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Carpbell3 said: Just bought a pack of three by thinking angler had to look at the tips as one pack was already carrying a broken one look a bit thin but I only need them to tie a few very short leadcore leaders 8 to 12 Ince for a inline set up just enough so the mainline is not kicking up at the lead. I broke the thinking anglers ones very easily tbh. Done a few with the korda one now and that seems good so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 In my defence of breaking them i have got hands like Pat Jennings.. rust was a problem on mine always got my box open.. 🤔 tackle box I now save the little packs that collect moisture they come in the box when you buy trainers I pop them in the tackle box and my gadget bag elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell3 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 Ha, snapped the first on on the first use looks like you really need to line the tag end up to pass through without the material doubling up in the splice, tricky, you bet. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted April 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 8 hours ago, B B said: In my defence of breaking them i have got hands like Pat Jennings.. rust was a problem on mine always got my box open.. 🤔 tackle box I now save the little packs that collect moisture they come in the box when you buy trainers I pop them in the tackle box and my gadget bag That is a genius idea "silica gel" I can get some tennis ball industrial sized ones of those not great for a tackle box but could put them in my bag and stuff. 46 minutes ago, Carpbell3 said: Ha, snapped the first on on the first use looks like you really need to line the tag end up to pass through without the material doubling up in the splice, tricky, you bet. I'm glad it wasn't just me that struggled with those ones, I found they snapped easily. Korda one is better and you can pull it through ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Are you putting the needle in the very edge and fluffing it up (ooh errr mrs) and a little rocking back and forth of the needle until the ends are in this is why I now use the Keith moors knotless leadcore knot as it is so much easier than trying to splice and double it back through on 2 ends Edited April 24, 2023 by framey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalej2014 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) I've just used the small, blue handled from this set, to splice some Gardener camflex lead free leader. A bit fiddly. Definitely an art to it, and practise needed, but no dramas, two good splices, and a good needle. Apparently easier with heavier lead ore, so try 65lb if the 45lb is too fiddly (and it is fiddly!) Good luck bud https://www.amazon.co.uk/NGT-Fishing-Tackle-Tool-Set/dp/B00GJW0P9O/ref=asc_df_B00GJW0P9O/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=218046489762&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15610305575061201744&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045078&hvtargid=pla-426455486375&psc=1 Edited April 24, 2023 by dalej2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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