framey Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 I’m surprised luke Moffat actually lets you use a hook at all with some of the rules lol. “mon ami this is Luke Moffat signing off from France..” anyone remember those days haha yonny and Danny Hearn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: Long shank curved hooks causing mouth damage I can remember vividly back in the day double hooking a small carp the hook had went in both lips had to snip the hook with cutters, could have been using Esp Raptors long shanks 🤔 that was the last time I used a long shank crusian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted January 29, 2023 Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 23 hours ago, crusian said: Thanks , Nick . 😃 Yes , double hooking , as opposed to my normal apply light pressure to the hook , and the carp is unhooked . Sounds like sidecutters time! A right pain in the rectum, not nice to deal with. I've snipped a few hooks over the years, the 28lb 2tone from Nazeing was hooked hard, and it was safer to snip the hook, but that is the only big fish I can remember. That was on a curved longshank pattern as well. I seem to recall snipping a few Patridge Piggybacks. crusian and Danny Hearn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 25/01/2023 at 19:01, framey said: Where’s @yonny when you need him I bet he’s had a good look at this stuff you know how he looks after his hooks It's decent lads 👍👍👍 elmoputney and Danny Hearn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Hearn Posted February 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, yonny said: It's decent lads 👍👍👍 You have no issue with the smell ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Danny Hearn said: You have no issue with the smell ? Nah. Use with confidence buddy. Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Hearn Posted February 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 On 25/01/2023 at 16:51, elmoputney said: I would certainly try it and see how they go I believe its been tested on a very tricky water near me with good results, for me I would prefer a smell to a hook that may have gone rusty overnight (it has happened to me) it's also why I don't use sharpened all the time, I think you may be Overthinking it, I remember the first time I used coloured kickers on my ronnie rig, i was thinking this is never gonna work but now I love a pink kicker, works a treat 😏 I would test one against a non coated one at least see if it rusts or not It didn’t rust by the way which was great. At the time I had flu and couldn’t smell or taste anything so I gave the hooks I had sharpened and smothered with the stuff to a friend because we was both excited about the stuff prior to buying it. He was disgusted with the smell firstly and secondly I think I realised he’s not as keen in his own testing as me. I wanted to see if the smell left the hook after a while but he didn’t wanna go right into it like me. Obviously no reason why I can’t start again from scratch .I would have liked to see if the smell left the hook after a while. I would have rubbed my finger on it after 4 days and smelled and tasted it. If it’s the case that the smell does leave the hook I suppose I would be happy to use hooks that have been soaked for x amount of time but im still getting that little niggle of doubt like if a dogs sense of smell can be 1000 times better than ours what might a Carps be ? no way would I ever be coating the hooks and using them straight away. We all blank but if I was using this stuff on my hooks I would terrorise myself thinking that’s why. some of us go deeper into this stuff than others and I admit some of us may be doing our own heads in. You gotta do what makes you happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 50 minutes ago, Danny Hearn said: It didn’t rust by the way which was great. At the time I had flu and couldn’t smell or taste anything so I gave the hooks I had sharpened and smothered with the stuff to a friend because we was both excited about the stuff prior to buying it. He was disgusted with the smell firstly and secondly I think I realised he’s not as keen in his own testing as me. I wanted to see if the smell left the hook after a while but he didn’t wanna go right into it like me. Obviously no reason why I can’t start again from scratch .I would have liked to see if the smell left the hook after a while. I would have rubbed my finger on it after 4 days and smelled and tasted it. If it’s the case that the smell does leave the hook I suppose I would be happy to use hooks that have been soaked for x amount of time but im still getting that little niggle of doubt like if a dogs sense of smell can be 1000 times better than ours what might a Carps be ? no way would I ever be coating the hooks and using them straight away. We all blank but if I was using this stuff on my hooks I would terrorise myself thinking that’s why. some of us go deeper into this stuff than others and I admit some of us may be doing our own heads in. You gotta do what makes you happy. I'm a professional overthinker but I like tinkering with things, I would use that stuff without worrying too much tbh, ultimately it won't be worse than a corroded hookpoint, maybe do it advance like you say but if it means you still have a sharp hook point the next morning it's worth it, and if they have got close enough to find out with a sharp hook it's probably too late for them anyway Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 21 hours ago, elmoputney said: I'm a professional overthinker but I like tinkering with things, I would use that stuff without worrying too much tbh, ultimately it won't be worse than a corroded hookpoint, maybe do it advance like you say but if it means you still have a sharp hook point the next morning it's worth it, and if they have got close enough to find out with a sharp hook it's probably too late for them anyway Professional overthinker? I worry about my smell affecting hooks and bait! Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I'm not 100% sure you need the hook stuff. I've seen some lakes where a hook goes out sharp at night, when you reel in in the morning you can see that it is blunter. It is on those waters where a dab of Vaseline or this stuff might protect the point. Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said: Professional overthinker? I worry about my smell affecting hooks and bait! Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I'm not 100% sure you need the hook stuff. I've seen some lakes where a hook goes out sharp at night, when you reel in in the morning you can see that it is blunter. It is on those waters where a dab of Vaseline or this stuff might protect the point. Used to when I smoked doesn't worry me so much now, tbh I can't change what I do that much, I did spod with a nitrile glove on last week but that was more because I didn't want to get spod juice in my spider bite, I quite enjoyed having clean hands still afterwards though lol might be worth considering 😂 Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Hearn Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 19 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: Professional overthinker? I worry about my smell affecting hooks and bait! Now I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I'm not 100% sure you need the hook stuff. I've seen some lakes where a hook goes out sharp at night, when you reel in in the morning you can see that it is blunter. It is on those waters where a dab of Vaseline or this stuff might protect the point. I’m the same I acquired the nick name the rapist on my syndicate because I’m often caught walking around in them disposable gloves. I wear them every time I handle the rig. also I have used Vaseline, and permanent marker, I thought ZR hooks was going to solve all my issues. The smell is unreal I don’t think people should be commenting until they have a whiff of it themselves. Honestly it’s shocking can’t imagine what it might taste like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 12:38, Danny Hearn said: I’m the same I acquired the nick name the rapist on my syndicate because I’m often caught walking around in them disposable gloves. I wear them every time I handle the rig. also I have used Vaseline, and permanent marker, I thought ZR hooks was going to solve all my issues. The smell is unreal I don’t think people should be commenting until they have a whiff of it themselves. Honestly it’s shocking can’t imagine what it might taste like I don't do the gloves, but I do check the hookpoints. I bait the hook/hair with my bait, and leave that bait on the whole trip, or if getting takes, until it is unusable and pulled off the hook. I sometimes even take the bait off at the end of a session and use it next time. I'm wary of the smell of superglue, never gluing my knots, but if it is a water with blunting properties without burring the hook over on a snag or gravel, a dash of Lipsyl on the hook tends to sort that out. Danny Hearn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell3 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Called me the Murderer on my last water well that and Short Chuck Blackballed and his floozy Christien can be ever so catty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Hearn Posted February 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 12:38, Danny Hearn said: I’m the same I acquired the nick name the rapist on my syndicate because I’m often caught walking around in them disposable gloves. I wear them every time I handle the rig. also I have used Vaseline, and permanent marker, I thought ZR hooks was going to solve all my issues. The smell is unreal I don’t think people should be commenting until they have a whiff of it themselves. Honestly it’s shocking can’t imagine what it might taste like Anyone had a good whiff of this stuff yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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