Twobags Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Im looking back at some past recipes and for some strange reason the quantities are missing, Im looking at Big Fish Mix Green lipped mussel extract Corn steep liquor Black pepper oil Guava nutrafruit Im hoping somebody can help me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I'm pretty sure the nutrabaits recipes were all 500grms of base mix. I've got a recipe with guava nutrafruit in it, I'll try and find it. It might take me a day or 2 mind Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, emmcee said: I'm pretty sure the nutrabaits recipes were all 500grms of base mix. I've got a recipe with guava nutrafruit in it, I'll try and find it. It might take me a day or 2 mind Haha Like emmecee says I’m sure all the nutrabaits were 500 grams of base mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 21/01/2021 at 11:33, Twobags said: Im looking back at some past recipes and for some strange reason the quantities are missing, Im looking at Big Fish Mix Green lipped mussel extract Corn steep liquor Black pepper oil Guava nutrafruit Im hoping somebody can help me out So, 16oz BFM 2grms GLM 20ml CSL 4 drops Black pepper oil 3ml Guava nutrafruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 This sounds like a nice recipe, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 In my opinion and the recommended recipe from nutrabaits is that guava goes much better with Madagascar clove oil. I've used it and it is a good cold water combo for sure. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayvid Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Copied from a 2013 post on here , BFM recipe - To make 16oz of base mix: 2 oz Capelin meal 3 oz Sardine & Anchovy meal 3 oz White fishmeal 3 oz Sluis CLO 2 oz Acid Casein 1/2 oz Kelp powder 1/2 oz Robin Red 1 oz Nutrapro 1 oz Nutralac Description of ingredients: Capelin meal - oily fishmeal, 70% protein content. Sardine & Anchovy meal - blend of two oily fishmeals, 60% protein content. White fishmeal - (Provimi 66), heavy fishmeal, high in amino acid Lysine, 66% protein content. Sluis CLO - high quality egg biscuit bird food, contains cod liver oil, helps with binding and rolling. Acid casein - Pure milk protein, 90%+ protein content. Kelp powder - pure dried seaweed, rich in vitamins and minerals and trace elements that carp require for optimum digestion. Robin Red - bird food used to feed show birds such as red factor canaries, full of attractors that carp love including Carophyl Red. Nutrapro - Nutrabaits own branded milk protein mixture, contains lactoglobulin (approx. 50%) and lactalbumin (approx. 20%) and whey protein, 80% overall protein content, also helps with binding and hardening of baits. Nutralac - slightly sweet, high fat milk supplement powder for rearing lambs (other milk replacerments are available such as Vitamelo, a calf rearing product). So, there you have it. One of the best all-time carp catching fishmeals laid bare... Some classic attractor packages for this bait are: 16oz BFM 2g green lipped mussel extract 20 ml Nutramino (or equivalent such as minamino) 20 ml salmon oil 4ml green lipped mussel UTCS flavour 16oz BFM 2g betaine HCl 20 ml Nutramino 15 ml salmon oil 3 ml Caviar UTCS flavour 6 drops of black pepper oil Quote Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 On a slightly different note, I saw on the nutrabaits website that the UTCS smoked ham flavour is being discontinued... 😫 not sure why though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, ouchthathurt said: On a slightly different note, I saw on the nutrabaits website that the UTCS smoked ham flavour is being discontinued... 😫 not sure why though. Probably because some of the ingredients become too expensive to formulate it, especially if they are from the EU etc. A lot of the well known flavours are no longer the same as they were years ago due to this. ouchthathurt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Well I’ve managed to get another bottle from the nutrabaits clearance line on their website. How about flavour “shelf life’s?” I’ve still got a bottle of richworth blue cheese flavour I brought in the late 90s, which I still use, I’ve got about 1/3 left and it still works, still produces fish. Yet I’ve got a much more modern flavour that is about 1yr old and it’s lost all its scent. I started using the UTCS smoked ham flavour from nutrabaits after I could no longer get hold of the richworth boiled ham flavour anymore. i think the Hutchinson shellfish sense appeals seem different to the older versions although I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 In my opinion there was only one smoked ham flavour and that was the original premier baits smoked ham. Awesome flavour. As for flavour shelf lives, watch john bakers latest videos on YouTube and he explains a lot about flavours etc. I'm pretty sure he said they don't have a long shelf life. Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Maybe it’s time to retire the blue cheese flavour then? Lol! Ah yes, the premier range is awesome, yet I’ve been using premier base mixes, oils and additives since 1997 so I would say that! Aminos, Aminos 2000 and matrix bases are my favourites, with added robin red, the cream stimulant and betaine. I’ve a marked preference for meat/fish flavours over fruit flavours with these bases, although premier peach melba on the aminos base is a sure fire classic. I roll all my own bait, pop ups, bottom baits, dumbbells, chops etc, I haven’t used a shop brought bait in god knows when. emmcee and Carpmaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, ouchthathurt said: Maybe it’s time to retire the blue cheese flavour then? Lol! Ah yes, the premier range is awesome, yet I’ve been using premier base mixes, oils and additives since 1997 so I would say that! Aminos, Aminos 2000 and matrix bases are my favourites, with added robin red, the cream stimulant and betaine. I’ve a marked preference for meat/fish flavours over fruit flavours with these bases, although premier peach melba on the aminos base is a sure fire classic. I roll all my own bait, pop ups, bottom baits, dumbbells, chops etc, I haven’t used a shop brought bait in god knows when. Me too ouch just gives you the knowledge that I know no one is using what I’m using and I can tweak it to suit my needs one of the liquids I used to use you can’t get no more was richworth Aqua stim that stuff the carp used to go looking for it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, ouchthathurt said: Maybe it’s time to retire the blue cheese flavour then? Lol! Ah yes, the premier range is awesome, yet I’ve been using premier base mixes, oils and additives since 1997 so I would say that! Aminos, Aminos 2000 and matrix bases are my favourites, with added robin red, the cream stimulant and betaine. I’ve a marked preference for meat/fish flavours over fruit flavours with these bases, although premier peach melba on the aminos base is a sure fire classic. I roll all my own bait, pop ups, bottom baits, dumbbells, chops etc, I haven’t used a shop brought bait in god knows when. I've used premier since 2002, love their bait. I've used a few of them but my go to are Matrix RR with matrix flavour, but for the last 14yrs primarily I've used a custom bait rolled with the supaminos basemix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Iv been watching the John Baker Baits videos on YouTube he’s got a series going really interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Big Bass said: Iv been watching the John Baker Baits videos on YouTube he’s got a series going really interesting They are good. He knows his stuff and has been around for a long time. Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp123_0 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I mite buy some john bakers base mix but also looking at patshull park mix by quality baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Carp123_0 said: I mite buy some john bakers base mix but also looking at patshull park mix by quality baits John Bakers would be my choice every time. His bio-shellfish is the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 It was listening to the likes of rod an John an Gary bairnes gave me the knowledge to create my own base mix cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Carpmaster said: It was listening to the likes of rod an John an Gary bairnes gave me the knowledge to create my own base mix cheers guys Well I’ve got to say John baker opened my eyes about pop up mix I’ll not be using one anymore cork ball or dust from now on 100%defo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp123_0 Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Yes really good clip I enjoy listening to him Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twobags Posted March 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Thanks for all your reply's, very much appriciated, it looks like Guava has been discontinued, Any suggestions what i can replace it with ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, Twobags said: Thanks for all your reply's, very much appriciated, it looks like Guava has been discontinued, Any suggestions what i can replace it with ??? What base mix are you going with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twobags Posted March 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Im looking at BFM as this i have super confidence in, but am always open to other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Twobags said: Im looking at BFM as this i have super confidence in, but am always open to other options. 3 hours ago, Twobags said: Thanks for all your reply's, very much appriciated, it looks like Guava has been discontinued, Any suggestions what i can replace it with ??? Since Bill Cottam sold Nutrabaits I really don't know whether the quality is the same. If you make it to the BFM recipe, you might wish to make the base mix yourself. If not look at an equivalent fishmeal base mix from another company. Guava is not in the list now, in fact there seem to be very few of my favourites still available. Edited March 3, 2021 by salokcinnodrog Typo Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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