tmjones Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 Just a quicky, can you tie the d rig using mouthtrap or is it too stiff a material.tim Quote
newmarket Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 Hello matey , mouthtrap was designed to make chod and stiff rigs so thats a great big YES ... Quote
tmjones Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks, thought it was, just making sure Quote
tmjones Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Posted February 10, 2014 Whats best, a rig ring or micro swivel Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 Don't tell anyone, but it is a capital D, for D-rig Something to do with the shape of the hook and the attachment of the hooklink continuation Coated Braid D-rig Works with mono, fluorocarbon, stiff link, braid and coated braid. The D-rig was the next step on from the basic hair at Savay, designed I believe by Roger Smith (while Rod Hutchinson was coming up with his version of the sliding/extending hair rig). It makes a good set-up for pop-ups, snowman baits, and I have also used it successfully with bottom baits on Taverham Quote
newmarket Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 Whats best, a rig ring or micro swivel I use a small rig ring and apply pop ups with an avid bait screw , great little things By the look of it nick uses rings as well Nick , how are you tying a snowman to the D ? Quote
dalthegooner Posted February 10, 2014 Report Posted February 10, 2014 I use mouth trap and a rig ring. Tie the bait on with dental floss. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 Whats best, a rig ring or micro swivel I use a small rig ring and apply pop ups with an avid bait screw , great little things By the look of it nick uses rings as well Nick , how are you tying a snowman to the D ? The bait is tied onto the rig ring with a fine piece of nylon, hair braid or dental floss, I've been using 4lb Mono for a few years now. To tie the bait on I tie a Uni knot loop at the end of a piece of nylon and thread in a Pop-up and then pull tight. I then put a bottom bait on the hair and tie it to the sliding rig ring. If to use it for pop-ups then instead of adding a bottom bait you can just tie on that pop-up. Quote
beanz Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 Whats best, a rig ring or micro swivel micro swivel or bait screw make the rig so much easier to tie, but i dont think either way effect the effectiveness of the rig...with the exception of weight! Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 Whats best, a rig ring or micro swivel micro swivel or bait screw make the rig so much easier to tie, but i dont think either way effect the effectiveness of the rig...with the exception of weight! And with a pop-up, maybe a swivel could be the way to add some weight to hold the pop-up down, but that is worth a thread in itself (Pop-ups and how they behave under water may be worth looking at ) As for the bait screw, I have always worried about piercing the skin of a pop-up, so I have tied mine on for many years Quote
newmarket Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 Whats best, a rig ring or micro swivel micro swivel or bait screw make the rig so much easier to tie, but i dont think either way effect the effectiveness of the rig...with the exception of weight! And with a pop-up, maybe a swivel could be the way to add some weight to hold the pop-up down, but that is worth a thread in itself (Pop-ups and how they behave under water may be worth looking at ) As for the bait screw, I have always worried about piercing the skin of a pop-up, so I have tied mine on for many years Nick , the avid bait screws were initially designed for use with the avid hi-lites , the fake boilies which take on flavours whilst guaranteeing never to take on water and therefore never sink . I have done some tests and they keep ordinary cork dust and airball pop ups perfectly popped up for more than a week in a tank test (and 48 hrs in the lake , i've never fished longer I know you are one for testing stuff so just thought i'd mention it , its made my fishing so much easier what with arthritic fat fingers etc Quote
carpsoup Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 x2 for the bait screws....... Quote
newmarket Posted February 16, 2014 Report Posted February 16, 2014 Besides , these screws actually screw a few millimetres into the bait so any air should displaced by the actual screw . Its not like you peirce the bait all the way through with a baiting needle and then pull it after after attaching it to the hair . These bait screw imo are so good that i actually considered sticking em in the tackle review threads . Quote
tmjones Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Posted March 3, 2014 Would you tie a D rig using a long shank hook Quote
grangemilky Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 Yes you can use a long shank hook, but you will have to think about how you tie the D. A whipping knot down the shank opposite the bend, round to a knottless knon makes a devistatingly difficult to eject rig. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 31, 2014 Report Posted March 31, 2014 The bait is tied onto the rig ring with a fine piece of nylon, hair braid or dental floss, I've been using 4lb Mono for a few years now. To tie the bait on I tie a Uni knot loop at the end of a piece of nylon and thread in a Pop-up and then pull tight. I then put a bottom bait on the hair and tie it to the sliding rig ring. If to use it for pop-ups then instead of adding a bottom bait you can just tie on that pop-up. Just reading this and realised I didn't make it particularly clear. I make the hair from the mono, by tying a uni knot loop at the end, and putting pop-up in to get the hair length right. With the pop-up in place, I then attach the hair to the ring allowing enough space for a bottom bait as well. I then remove the pop-up, and put bottom bait on the hair with baiting needle, the pop-up then gets put back into the loop. The pop-up effectively becomes the bait stop. newmarket 1 Quote
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