Help before I pull all my hair out

[zammmo]

I am having prob's tying a silt/chod rig, I am using size 6 Korda chod hooks and 20lb Mouthtrap...I cannot get the tag end back through the eye,I am at me wits end...

Would a whipping knot make any diffrence?

[vinyljunkie]

Zammo, have you tried cutting the tag end at an angle so you get a very small point tohelp push it back through ??

[zammmo]

I have mate but I will try again, thanks

[calamity_carper]

try a domhorf knot as that only goes throught the eye twice

[zammmo]

Ala ESP yea I will give it ago...

But I thought i'd start one again from scratch and it went through first bloomin time.

Now I know it will go through I don't mind percy veering

Thank's for your help...

[zammmo]

When I say "went through first time" what I meant to say was "went through first time without the rig ring on"

I'm looooooooooooosing it

[cobleyn]

If you pull the line really tight (ie the bit that goes down to the swivel), it reduces the diameter- so it should go back through.

[dougmoon]

i had the same problem. i found the whipping knot better as the line comes out straight from the hook

[beanz]

iv had this i found bigger hooks work better.on the occasion that iv been stuck on the bank without ,iv trapped the D tag under the last loop at the eye of the hook as i tighten down the knotless knot....if that makes sense landed up to 24lb like that.its not the most perfect looking D loop ,but works.

[zammmo]

iv had this i found bigger hooks work better.on the occasion that iv been stuck on the bank without ,iv trapped the D tag under the last loop at the eye of the hook as i tighten down the knotless knot....if that makes sense landed up to 24lb like that.its not the most perfect looking D loop ,but works.

 

Yea that's a good idea...

[nigewoodcock]

iv had this i found bigger hooks work better.on the occasion that iv been stuck on the bank without ,iv trapped the D tag under the last loop at the eye of the hook as i tighten down the knotless knot....if that makes sense landed up to 24lb like that.its not the most perfect looking D loop ,but works.

 

Could the ring cut into the hooklink as it tightened?

[kbg]

Make a loop on a piece of low diameter nylonline, thread this line through the eye of the hook and then thread your hooklink material thrugh the nylon loop. The rest I'll let you guess

[zammmo]

Make a loop on a piece of low diameter nylonline, thread this line through the eye of the hook and then thread your hooklink material thrugh the nylon loop. The rest I'll let you guess

 

Well I guess you would be trying to get 6 bits of line through the eye instead of 3 but I've probably misunderstood your explaination?

[kbg]

Make a loop on a piece of low diameter nylonline, thread this line through the eye of the hook and then thread your hooklink material thrugh the nylon loop. The rest I'll let you guess

 

Well I guess you would be trying to get 6 bits of line through the eye instead of 3 but I've probably misunderstood your explaination?

 

Yup, that's right but the advantage is that you have a piece of line to pull instead of having to shove a higher diameter line through the small eye.

[beanz]

iv had this i found bigger hooks work better.on the occasion that iv been stuck on the bank without ,iv trapped the D tag under the last loop at the eye of the hook as i tighten down the knotless knot....if that makes sense landed up to 24lb like that.its not the most perfect looking D loop ,but works.

 

Could the ring cut into the hooklink as it tightened?

 

 

im not sure that the ring could,but the line could damage the knot........only if the was enough pressure on it ....which i think is unlikley as its only the pressure of sucking/blowing and not playing the fish on the ring/loop

[nigewoodcock]

iv had this i found bigger hooks work better.on the occasion that iv been stuck on the bank without ,iv trapped the D tag under the last loop at the eye of the hook as i tighten down the knotless knot....if that makes sense landed up to 24lb like that.its not the most perfect looking D loop ,but works.

 

Could the ring cut into the hooklink as it tightened?

 

 

im not sure that the ring could,but the line could damage the knot........only if the was enough pressure on it ....which i think is unlikley as its only the pressure of sucking/blowing and not playing the fish on the ring/loop

 

Sorry Beanz - just re-read your post. I thought it was the ring itself that was trapped in the last loop/whip - not the tag end as you quite clearly state! lol

[carpfisherlee]

what hooks you on? had that problem with a couple of patterns eye to diddy

[emmcee]

ive just switched over to the atomic chodda hook in a size 6,ive only used them the 1 night but they tie up good,i use them with 25lb mouthtrap and i can get that through the eye 3 times.had 2 fish on them and they were nailed big time.they might be worth a look

[zammmo]

Getting the hang of it now, cutting line at the sharpest angle I can,leaving a longer tag end and it's going through no problems...

Thanks to all for help...

[gnorty]

iv had this i found bigger hooks work better.on the occasion that iv been stuck on the bank without ,iv trapped the D tag under the last loop at the eye of the hook as i tighten down the knotless knot....if that makes sense landed up to 24lb like that.its not the most perfect looking D loop ,but works.

 

Could the ring cut into the hooklink as it tightened?

 

 

im not sure that the ring could,but the line could damage the knot........only if the was enough pressure on it ....which i think is unlikley as its only the pressure of sucking/blowing and not playing the fish on the ring/loop

 

plus withthe BS of line used for a chod rig, a small reduction is not the end of the world!

[smiler634]

Sounds like you lot are faffing about here, there should be no hassle at all getting 20lb stiff filament through a size 6 hook 3 times.

 

Leave yourself a long tag end to form the D loop, make sure you cut the hook link at an angle, tie your knotless knot and pull it as tight as you can, be sure to wet it, a generally bite the tag end and pull the other keeping the loop straight along the shank, then simply fold over and back through, i can do this with size 8's!!!! Come on you sausage fingers it cant be that hard for you lol