crusian

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

I wouldn't use Propolis in the mouth at all, if it washes back onto the gills it can't breathe potentially. Antiseptic for hook holds ONLY if required, Antiseptic then propolis for the body.
I don't think we should be doing any of this as a matter of course tbh only if you deem it necessary. 👍
 

It's the Propolis thing for me, obviously good, but not if your sealing in bad germs.  Like you say antiseptic first then seal but it does seem a bit risky to me.
There's also the treatments getting on the gills themselves, this is shocking and needs to be avoided at all costs the risks are obvious.

I think the thing to do before propolis is some kind of antisceptic spray then prop it to stop it getting infected but like you say, people just use propolis as a one stop shop, I just tend to use the gardner stuff. 
I don't think you are wrong though, I've never seen them go to the quacks after spawning. Not sure if they even have a GUM clinic 😅

I'm still on Kryston Klinik. I'd screenshot and add the pic to the post, but it takes so long to upload with awful signal, so I have added in Johnson Ross and the Kryston link:
https://johnsonrosstackle.co.uk/kryston/26816-kryston-klin-ik-carp-care-solution.html

Same stuff as the Gardner with a different label as I understand it. Decent.

I've got the kits because I have to with the club rules, do I use it NO, I might treat a bad hook hold coz I know the damage is fresh but as for treating existing wounds I don't really believe in it TBH  you could easily be making it worse, trapping harmful bacteria in - we're not vets IMO
Tin hat on - bring it 😂

No tin hat comment from me. I've seen how quickly carp heal in their own environment. All the split fins and torn scales from spawning. Within weeks that damage is unnoticeable and healed up.
Like you I'll treat a bleeding hook hole, but carp must cut their mouth on stones, sticks etc when feeding and that heals.
I remember Dave Chilton coming up with Klinik and he refused to make a profit on sales, so sold it at cost as he felt that carp welfare was more important than profit. Obviously Dave Chilton sold Kryston and I believe  I may be wrong, Richard Gardner went to the same source as Kryston's new owners didn't have the product rights. 
I must admit, I do have plenty of time for Richard Gardner and Gardner Tackle.

For me IF the water quality is bang on they'll need no help healing.
I was keeping an eye on a mates house when he went away on hols, during the week his biggest koi managed to trap itself between layers of the surface netting which I didn't see obvs.  By the time he returned it was in a very bad way, fins and tail gone and skin red raw.  He released it and it sank down not doing much at all.  After a few days it was completely covered in white mould and he thought should I kill it for kindness, well he didn't and after a week or so the white slime vanished and the fish looked great with new fins growing and everything.  It's still going now, maybe 10 years later.  No treatments were given but the water quality was obviously very good.
 

Hi mate I use Gardner intensive care for hookholds, it's just a spray, just be mindful it sorta dyes your fingers blue 👍🤣
I use prolopis for damage/wounds, it creates like a scab over the wound. I think prolopis if sealed properly has a shelf life of around 10 years 👍

And toads!

You can get various devices. I got some pest plug in things from Amazon for this winter. I still left the poison traps out but only had one dead. Previous years it has been 6+! I do back on to fields though so have a steady population nearby. 
 
the plug in pest thing seems to have worked for all manner of creepy crawlies and mice. Worth a look 

The area I cleaned out and created and started prebaiting 2 weeks ago and now fishable.

The birds are feeding up, especially the females who will be egg sitting soon with not much food.
I did walk the 2miles around the 45acre lake each day, and saw no signs, but did hear a few splashes at dusk just to my right which I think were fish. 
I'd love Chestnut and I'm trying to come up with a plan for the bigger common which seems to avoid bait. A few members have seen him, and he does look a lot bigger than Chestnut. 
A working quarry lake not far from Bury St Edmonds had the fish removed and sold to the syndicate, we thought the big common was one of them until the biggie from the stock was caught spawned out. So the big common is an uncaught original!
I think that we have around 185 fish, that is known originals and the progressive stockings we have made since 2018.

Good luck on your hunt for Chestnut  .
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Moved 4 times today, first spot on the 9 acre lake got done by the birds so moved further down, so I've set up found a clear spot, some guy has set up opposite me so had to move as I was fishing into his water. The 3rd swim I got to didn't last long as I was getting the rods out and started moving my kit I started to find ticks on my rod sleeves and quiver? No idea where they came from but it spun me out so moved down to the 4 acre lake, I'm quite happy with the spot I'm in as it's the one I've been recently fishing. There's a lot of fizzing going on over the spot I baited previously and there's a few fish showing in this bay so I've stuck 3 singles out over the spot, if it doesn't produce tonight I'll put some more bait out but for now I just want to keep the disturbance to a minimum lol. What a day, feels good to have a beer 🤣

Hey crusian 👍
I had a bit of trouble with mice in the past in the shed, all bait was stored in metal bins with lids and I was catching a mouse a day using a trap called little nipper higher recommended 👍. I told the Mrs the story and she piped up must be the big box of grass seed she put in there 🙄
Traps are set all year round for me 

I "lost" a bedchair a few years ago in my garage. My current version is hung up on a wall to prevent a repeat. I spilled some hemp once and noticed that I was getting some visitors. Like Nick, I put a few traps down and nipped it in the bud. I keep virtually all my seed and pellets in strong plastic screw buckets and that seems to keep them at bay. Don't give them a reason to visit and clean up any food items straight away.
I worked for a pest control Company for a few months (probably the job I hated most, mostly down to the people I had to work with) but I did take away that you have to be careful with breakneck traps. They should be fine in a garage but exercise caution if using them outside as you don't want to injure non-target species. These include birds, pets and children!

Always about!
I used to set traps in my garage when I lived on Old Norwich Road between Ipswich and Claydon, the darn things would get into the dog and bird food bins even in summer. Maybe it was because we were on the edge of the country, but they could be a pain. I've had traps go off within 5minutes of setting them.

Ha ha, the kids call it a victory flag I believe 😎😱😅

Hi
I'm 54 and got 2 sons and 5 grandkids . 1 son loves fishing and so does 3 grandkids. 
Got my 1st rod at 13 and fished local lake, learned by getting books out of the library and got help from a brilliant bailiff on the lake which cost 10p a day lol.
Caught my first carp a few years later and that was it wanted bigger.
Had to take about 10 yrs out when the kids came along and work took over. But got back into it about 5 years ago when the kids all left home. And loving it, Looking forward to learning and maybe ask a few questions  thanks for reading

Im just gonna buy new, not having any luck catching as it is so no point risking losing a fish should i actually hook one, and would not be good for the fish to swim about with half a rig in its gob