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You should try and book another trip while you have their sympathy, hopefully they will roll out the red carpet for you next time, sad to hear that though sounds like the people fishing it just removed it so they could fish it. That's the gamble with day tickets you never know who will turn up. 

Well mate it goes like this…. We turn up to our pre booked swim that the bailiff had placed a stake with a laminated note saying the swim had been booked for the 48hrs, this was way in advance I believe 4 days, and theirs two guys fishing in there 🙄 looked for the sign and couldn’t find it. we drove to the office had a word with Chris the fishery manager and he said he made the sign and a bailiff said he seen it there on the Wednesday.
Chris apologised and sorted a swim out on the Tar Farm set of lakes and said we just had to pay for the one ticket….. And we blanked 😏
Haven’t heard anything today from Linnar so il send a email off tomorrow to see if they got to the bottom of it, we were thinking next time we go il phone the head bailiff the day before to make sure there’s a sign up. 

Some might think we got to fish and for half price so it wasn’t to bad …but a 30llb plus fish is on my mates bucket list and oxlease is the best bet to get it. The organising he’s got to do to get away for the 48hrs you wouldn’t believe and I won’t go into his personal problems here. 

That looks like a big old Tench ! .

Oh dear , what's the matter , BB ? .
Did you want to share with the forum , and maybe someone will have an answer to your problem , or it might be good to get what ever is bothering you off your chest .
 

That’s very kind of you to help with my chest 👍 just got bad signal here and I’m trying to forget what happened will let you know Sunday night 👍

I use propolis occasionally. Bit like Kev though, just let them heal themselves unless it’s really bad. I also have some korda stuff (very old though) in the side pocket of the mat. 
 
as said. Best course of action if you want to/have to use something is any of the anti septic stuff followed by propolis on the body. But tbh there’s every realistic chance that the fishes goes and rubs the propolis off once released anyway! Or thrashes on the mat or sling and knocks it off beforehand. 
 
if a fish is obvs suffering from some infection from a wound it’s best to give it a salt bath and quarantine it, any treatment an angler puts on won’t be of much use! 

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
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Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

Thanks very much for all your answers , and I must change my fish care procedures .
I started to read Yonny's 1st. post , and I thought " he's going to mention sealing nasties in " - oh poo I've been using MCP's Propolis .
So reading all the replies I'll go back to my Gardner Intensive Care which is a few years old . I've also got some Kryston Klinik which is even older .
Also I'll stick to treating just wounds where the flesh is broken and there is bleeding .
😃

I wouldn't use Propolis in the mouth at all, if it washes back onto the gills it can't breathe potentially. Antiseptic for hook holds ONLY if required, Antiseptic then propolis for the body.
I don't think we should be doing any of this as a matter of course tbh only if you deem it necessary. 👍
 

It's the Propolis thing for me, obviously good, but not if your sealing in bad germs.  Like you say antiseptic first then seal but it does seem a bit risky to me.
There's also the treatments getting on the gills themselves, this is shocking and needs to be avoided at all costs the risks are obvious.

I think the thing to do before propolis is some kind of antisceptic spray then prop it to stop it getting infected but like you say, people just use propolis as a one stop shop, I just tend to use the gardner stuff. 
I don't think you are wrong though, I've never seen them go to the quacks after spawning. Not sure if they even have a GUM clinic 😅

I'm still on Kryston Klinik. I'd screenshot and add the pic to the post, but it takes so long to upload with awful signal, so I have added in Johnson Ross and the Kryston link:
https://johnsonrosstackle.co.uk/kryston/26816-kryston-klin-ik-carp-care-solution.html

Same stuff as the Gardner with a different label as I understand it. Decent.

I've got the kits because I have to with the club rules, do I use it NO, I might treat a bad hook hold coz I know the damage is fresh but as for treating existing wounds I don't really believe in it TBH  you could easily be making it worse, trapping harmful bacteria in - we're not vets IMO
Tin hat on - bring it 😂

No tin hat comment from me. I've seen how quickly carp heal in their own environment. All the split fins and torn scales from spawning. Within weeks that damage is unnoticeable and healed up.
Like you I'll treat a bleeding hook hole, but carp must cut their mouth on stones, sticks etc when feeding and that heals.
I remember Dave Chilton coming up with Klinik and he refused to make a profit on sales, so sold it at cost as he felt that carp welfare was more important than profit. Obviously Dave Chilton sold Kryston and I believe  I may be wrong, Richard Gardner went to the same source as Kryston's new owners didn't have the product rights. 
I must admit, I do have plenty of time for Richard Gardner and Gardner Tackle.

For me IF the water quality is bang on they'll need no help healing.
I was keeping an eye on a mates house when he went away on hols, during the week his biggest koi managed to trap itself between layers of the surface netting which I didn't see obvs.  By the time he returned it was in a very bad way, fins and tail gone and skin red raw.  He released it and it sank down not doing much at all.  After a few days it was completely covered in white mould and he thought should I kill it for kindness, well he didn't and after a week or so the white slime vanished and the fish looked great with new fins growing and everything.  It's still going now, maybe 10 years later.  No treatments were given but the water quality was obviously very good.
 

Hi mate I use Gardner intensive care for hookholds, it's just a spray, just be mindful it sorta dyes your fingers blue 👍🤣
I use prolopis for damage/wounds, it creates like a scab over the wound. I think prolopis if sealed properly has a shelf life of around 10 years 👍

And toads!

You can get various devices. I got some pest plug in things from Amazon for this winter. I still left the poison traps out but only had one dead. Previous years it has been 6+! I do back on to fields though so have a steady population nearby. 
 
the plug in pest thing seems to have worked for all manner of creepy crawlies and mice. Worth a look 

The area I cleaned out and created and started prebaiting 2 weeks ago and now fishable.

The birds are feeding up, especially the females who will be egg sitting soon with not much food.
I did walk the 2miles around the 45acre lake each day, and saw no signs, but did hear a few splashes at dusk just to my right which I think were fish. 
I'd love Chestnut and I'm trying to come up with a plan for the bigger common which seems to avoid bait. A few members have seen him, and he does look a lot bigger than Chestnut. 
A working quarry lake not far from Bury St Edmonds had the fish removed and sold to the syndicate, we thought the big common was one of them until the biggie from the stock was caught spawned out. So the big common is an uncaught original!
I think that we have around 185 fish, that is known originals and the progressive stockings we have made since 2018.

Good luck on your hunt for Chestnut  .
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Moved 4 times today, first spot on the 9 acre lake got done by the birds so moved further down, so I've set up found a clear spot, some guy has set up opposite me so had to move as I was fishing into his water. The 3rd swim I got to didn't last long as I was getting the rods out and started moving my kit I started to find ticks on my rod sleeves and quiver? No idea where they came from but it spun me out so moved down to the 4 acre lake, I'm quite happy with the spot I'm in as it's the one I've been recently fishing. There's a lot of fizzing going on over the spot I baited previously and there's a few fish showing in this bay so I've stuck 3 singles out over the spot, if it doesn't produce tonight I'll put some more bait out but for now I just want to keep the disturbance to a minimum lol. What a day, feels good to have a beer 🤣