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Lets see, from your description, I don't think its the same. I know Brian has seen a pic (rig in my hand) and tried tying some up to play with. I do know that the first fish I hooked on the rig was landed, and hooked very squarely centre of the bottom lip. Shows that my thinking may well be right on what I'm trying to achieve. May only have been another 8lb Common, but its more than has been coming out of the lake recently.

Probably not Gave it its name on how it sits in practice, and what it looks like

Hmm, its going to need the wonders of Dissolving foam!

The theory works, but I'm not one for putting something up if it doesn't work in practice. Besides, you know why I'm calling it the Mushroom rig? Cos I'm keeping you in the dark and feeding you bovine excrement

Been playing around while thinking about the problems I've been having. I may have come up with something original using a hair rig, rig ring, a double bait system, a bottom and a surface bait. I'm trying it tomorrrow night, so I will let you know the results of the All New, All singing and dancing "Mushroom rig"

I've just walked around the local lake while I was having a bit of a pre-bait and fish spotting session. I'm glad that I had 3 carrier bags in my pocket as I ended up filling them with Litter. Soft drinks and Beer Cans and Bottles, Line, sweetcorn tins and bags, crisp packets, sweet and biscuit wrappers, 3 disgorgers, 2 floats and a plummet. What is even worse is that in many cases there were bins available. 5 metres from the bin and it still ends up on the ground I did draw the line at picking up the toilet paper and excrement that had been left right next to the main path that many children and dog walkers go along every day. Litter is an absolute disgrace, anyone who leaves it should be banned from fishing, or even Living! As for those who do need a "Pony", please BURY OR BAG IT AND BIN IT!

Their information and secrecy being let out... You may be onto a loser there mate Hopefully the caravan will get you some brownie points back

Thread moved into UK Where to Fish As for the syndicate members being quiet, it maybe a case of they want to know you and accept you before they give anything back. Which means you may have to so some work and offer them some information you have found out

Royal Military Canal has a BIG chapter in Neil Waytes River Fishing. Some very big fish, but you may have to do a lot of homework/walking to find them

Personal Choice? Neither! If I had the choice I would take Taverham Mills, Swangey or Waveney Valley/Yew Tree or Marsh. And I know that these have also been posted on in the past Just a post on one of them brings it back to the top for up to date info.

A bit tight on the old wrists, and they smell

Sapphire and Steel? From the UK WHERE TO FISH STICKY http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=27977: At least 9 other fisheries to contact or SEARCG(!) for. wonder if I spell it wrong whether anyone will actually take more notice

Originally posted by Jim Shelley, but added to this thread

Manchester, Lancashire being as my Geography isn't brilliant? From the UK Where to Fish by Counties Sticky: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=27977 Then it may pay to see if any have been mentioned on the forum before using the wonderful Search facility

Thanks for this Nick. It does not say what size the stock fish they introduced were, and i do wonder if they are simply guessing about the originals that escaped the netting, but as you said i would have thought they might be difficult to net anyway. Once we can get some idea of the size of the stock, it might be worth arranging a social down there. From memory if they are talking about Days Lake then there were only 7 Carp in the Lake anyway, until a couple of the 30's died. There is a massive Gravel Bar that goes across the Lake that probably didn't help with any nettingof the venue. I did just try to visit the website to see what has happened about the other Lakes on the complex, but at the moment either my PC is playing Silly or the Interweb is playing up, "Cannot Find Server" Did you pay your broadband bill? So i guess what they are saying is that all the originals escaped the netting process...all 7 of them (it does say up to 12 originals..something fishy perhaps!) I just managed to get the website up and venue, and your'e quite right it is days lake they have opened. Cheeky Git! Direct Debit, so I'd better not forget I thought it was only 7 fish in there when I lived in Norfolk, so it could be me who was wrong Looking at the map they've dug out and extended the other lakes as well. The bridge that is at the end of Days lake has been put into the little Lake which was separate from the others. The Car Path went between that and the (what was 2 lakes) lake on the opposite side. There used to be a small bridge separating them . You then had the 2 back lakes which are at the right of the Map. The Back lake was silting up at a rapid rate.

Thanks for this Nick. It does not say what size the stock fish they introduced were, and i do wonder if they are simply guessing about the originals that escaped the netting, but as you said i would have thought they might be difficult to net anyway. Once we can get some idea of the size of the stock, it might be worth arranging a social down there. From memory if they are talking about Days Lake then there were only 7 Carp in the Lake anyway, until a couple of the 30's died. There is a massive Gravel Bar that goes across the Lake that probably didn't help with any nettingof the venue. I did just try to visit the website to see what has happened about the other Lakes on the complex, but at the moment either my PC is playing Silly or the Interweb is playing up, "Cannot Find Server"

Who says I fish it only as a Fixed position rig even over gravel? My dislike of the Name "Chod" rig It is a rotary style rig and lead set-up, Bomb-on-the-end-of-the-line or Helicopter set-up. Fair enough. I thought you didn't like the 'Silt' rig, regardless of what you're fishing over, or did you mean the Rotary set-up in weed? I dislike the name Chod Rig, and I don't like the rotary set-up in weed. A Rotary style set-up used in the right place/situation is not a problem.

Who says I fish it only as a Fixed position rig even over gravel? My dislike of the Name "Chod" rig It is a rotary style rig and lead set-up, Bomb-on-the-end-of-the-line or Helicopter set-up.

Im sorry but if I read you right you surmise that a "chod" fishes the bait off the ground? If this is your thought you are sadley wrong,the "chod" fishes the bait directly on the soft surface of silt,silk weed etc,whereas other rigs could pull the bait under the surface. Big fish rigs do not exist,the way you can fish might be big fish selective. I see what yo're saying there, but the mechanics of the rig as I spoke of them were on a clean gravel/clay etc bottom, sorry for not pointing that out I realise the chod rig will not be brilliantly effective on this sort of bottom, as it was designed for silt/weed but it was just an example How much difference does the Lead set-up make on a Gravel bottom. A Helicopter rig can fish, in theory, any bottom make-up, although I don't like Rotary style rigs in weed (we've had that discussion before). An Inline or Pendant Lead could drag the Rig into silt, in fact so could a Silt set-up if the Rig itself is too short. I'm differentiating between the Hooklink mechanics and Lead set-up as the 2 are actually separate, but can be conjoined in relation to each other. Do Pop-up rigs become more Big Fish selective dependant on height above the lakebed? What is the easiest way to be Big Fish selective? According to Rod Hutchinson, the answer is to "Do a Fred". Make the bait so big that only a Big Fish can get the Bait into its mouth

I have no problem with that. You know what you're doing, unlike someone new to the game that sees the rig in a mag. Plus i don't like apples You know my theories on how rigs are used. The Bent Hook rig and 360rig, published in the Magazines and every man and his dog gets onto them then Mouth damage occurs because they are not being used in the correct context. A rig is designed in most cases for the Fish in a particular water and how those fish feed (the bent hook rig for Longfield I believe), then word gets out for whatever reason. I don't think that a type of rig is responsible for Bigger fish, but Rig lengths may have some bearing (thoughts running round my head I'll try to put into words at a later time). True_Carp_king, Don't think in terms of a particular rig first; look at how fish feed, how they behave, whether they are "suckers and blowers" or whether they actually pick up the bait. The Lake Bed, whether clean, silt, gravel or sand etc. A fish that Picks up the bait may get hooked on a rig designed for a Carp that sucks and blows, yet the Carp that sucks and blows may not be hooked on a rig designed for fish that pick up the bait (Over weighted or Critical balancing). That could be complicated by the Lakebed in any particular area as the same Carp may feed differently on a different type of bottom. That should define your thinking on a rig. Want to go have a read of the Complicated rigs thread? http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=9536

Is Fluorocarbon acceptable? Or does it have to be Mono? I got some Ultima Power Plus in 12lb and Berkeley XL in for Mono hooklinks, and for floater fishing. In the Fluorocarbon I got some of the Carp-r-Us Clearwater in 12lb. I know that a fair number of the anglers who use Mono for hooklinks do use the same line as their Mainline

When I used to pay for the stuff the ELC was my purchase point. Since then I know that a lot of companies use the Corn/Maize /Starch foam as environmentally friendly packing. So I made sure that I got a dustbin bag for free.

And a lot of Carp with wind I always wondered why they bubbled so well

Ringland has now been re-opened by Cemex Weblink to the Cemex details of the venue: Ringland Details (click here)

Go to cemex site and work your way through the venues http://www.cemexangling.co.uk Hertfordshire or Bedfordshire?