Grrrr
Thinking outside the box i have trouble with Anyway i'm sure you'll reveal all to your beloved forum members soon enough
ADDED --- Now i'm thinking a bottom bait on hair the normal way and a popup tied to the curve of the hook towards the point to hold hook off bottom But hey i know nothing
And the rig ring?
To be honest I've pretty much used the same style rigs for over 15years. Basic Braided Knotless knotted or Line aligned. The most I have seemed to change is rig length or hair length, and some of mine probably aren't that tidy
It's only down to the lakebed that I've had to work hard to think up a "different" presentation to keep the hook point clear of the bottom due to a couple of hookpulls. I wanted a presentation that would lift the hookpoint up, yet allow me to fish with a bottom bait.
I had tried a "reverse" snowman, with the Pop-up nearest the hook, but they will not touch a (flavoured) pop-up.
This way I have the 2bottom baits (I was using a 18 and 15mm bait on the hair) on the lakebed (obviously ), and also a (neutral) pop-up high up the bend lifting the hookpoint clear. It actually may give me another advantage, in that the Carp don't expect that whichever they take, the pop-up or bottom bait(s) may have a hook in it.