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Ooh that reminds me of a guy on the lake a couple of weeks ago with that clip. He had a fast take, the fish made the lilly pads, but he got it back. The fish then kited down the margins into another bed of weed. As he pulled it, just out of range to be netted the rod sprang back straight. The rubber on the link clip had slipped during the fight, and the hooklink as it got to the weedy margins CAME OFF the link clip. A good fish too, and I was gutted for him as 1 more second I would have been able to net it I won't use Quick link clips of any sort as I know of this sort of incident happening where during the fight the rubber tube gets dislodged, and the quick links open up, or the hooklink loop slips down the "prong" and onto one side of the link, where it is then able to either then slide off the link, or on one side of the link only has opened out.

I have read the first 3 that you mentioned in the "Legacy" series, unfortunately I no longer own them as I put them on E-bay when I split up with Liz, but they are definitely worth reading. The last 2 in the "Legends", I have to go get myself and think that I will also be going to the library to see if I can get hold of them.

I don't hate them at all Nick. As a standard set up I use the ESP safety clips with anchor tubing. At the moment I'm only using a running rig on my stalking set up. However, that set up (using X-Line ) is proving to be quite succesful. Especially as bite are very finicky on my current water....not with the running rig! mdjones: you're right plenty of lead shapes and sizes. Personally I use two shapes....flat pear and casting between 1oz and 3oz. To some people lead shape and size is of huge importance. Have a read hear and try to adjust to your circumstances. http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=22174&highlight=pear Good luck! Wasn't aimed at you mate, Have a look at Joeyb's reply Standard lead on most waters I would stick with a Pear lead.

Hmm yeah i suppose your right. But I thought the lead clip pack included detailed instructions that made it hard to set it up wrong, But i haven't brought one so just a guess. Plus i hate running rigs You keep on hating them then . When I'm outcatching you with your semi-fixed set-up to my running lead then I'll laugh and say I told you so Far better indication with a Running rig in most cases than with a semi-fixed lead Various manufacturers do make Running rig set-ups, but as Andy said, a Link swivel or even a clean lead running up and down the mainline. To use it effectively a Running lead needs to be fished with a slack line, as slack as you can get it. Basically the line should be touching every single ring, and dropping straight off the rod tip. The only reason I buy Solar Running rigs is because I think that they are better than the majority on the market, and I like the size of the Run rings that come with them. There is no real reason to use tubing on any lead set-up, but it does help prevent tangles, and protect the mainline. With tubing on a Running Lead you increase the resistance. I'll put a couple of links in for you, one shows a Running lead set-up (with tubing), and the other is a long discussion on Lead set-ups. Read it slowly and think about it, and it may make understanding easier http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37603 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=26640 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=27479

I have read a few of Raymond Feists books and I love them. I have a feeling though that you may have missed part of the Riftwar saga as I have "Honoured Enemy, Legends of the Riftwar", a collaboration with William Forstchen. Whatever, I would definitely read these books if you have any love for Fantasy Novels

I honestly cannot remember when I bought this book, what I do know is that it is a great read, and a book I pick up regularly. For bait making ideas and understanding, and also for rigs and his fishing. Rod Hutchinson is in no way a classical writer like Chris Yates, and freely admits that he is an angler trying to write, not a writer who goes fishing. However because he admits his faults you feel you are reading a real persons book.

A favourite read. One of my Carp Books that gets read or chapters picked tthrough regularly.

Chris Yates books, don't even bother checking the title, whether you have read it before, just know that you pick it up and you won't want to put it down. I made a mistake with How to Fish, I went into the library one day to kill some time. I didn't leave until I had read the book from cover to cover. So it can't have been a waste of time

I have read a few of Dan Browns Books including Angels and Demons and The Da Vinci Code, those 2 I just thought "OH Gawd, what pants!" Sorry, it takes a controversial subject to make him a Best Seller. I read Deception Point, not brilliant, readable, but not something I would say had to be read. It is down to the controversy involved that made me read the other two named and I have to say, I won't be reading anymore. I find classic writing a lot more readable and enjoyable, although Gone With the Wind was a bit much

I read this years ago, but couldn't really remember much of it, and I have not seen the film so I thought it start reading it again. It is about the "trials" of Jim, an English 14year old lad who was living in Shanghai with his parents when the Japanese invaded. The Japanese put vast amounts of Civilians into Concentration Camps and treated the captives abysmally. The book charts Jim's life from before the invasion through to the end of the war, his thoughts, his fight for survival. Harrowing, scary and even at the end it doesn't have a satisfactory ending. I started it last night, and finshed it today, I seriously couldn't put it down.

As Daleg has said, a Silt feeder may need a totally different presentation to a gravel or hard bottom feeder. The curtain at the top of the mouth, the majority of carp I have caught have still had this intact, some weird places to be hooking if it has been damaged or ruined, although surface feeders and hooking in the top may be a cause Thats why I say I don't think about Rig Mechanics, although I understand about lengthening the shank with tubing, and a line aligner is something I'm doing now as a matter of course. Again, you've pointed out that some fish, maybe especially fat, gutty fish may be "vertical feeders". Maybe because although I say I don't think about it, it is possibly part of the understanding of watercraft, which I may do without thinking about, or knowing why I do it. Its the same with when I use Pop-ups exclusively, I prefer an out-turned eye, and the pop-up tight to the hook as I feel that I get better hookholds and hook-ups with that presentation. I do also check how the hook and pop-up sit in the margins of the water. I can't convince myself to have the hook laying on its side and the pop-up above it. That should in theory give me a better chance of a hook-up with a fish that is picking up as opposed to sucking and blowing, so the rig should really be chosen with how a fish feeds in mind.

Thought I'd bring this up again as somebody tried to be a bit smart on another thread Unfortunately I can't quote all 4 posts, and strangely enough I also gained qualifications in Electro-Mechanical and General Mechanical Engineering to C&G level (thats City and Guilds, not Cow and Gate Baby Milk ) I say I don't think about Rig Mechanics consciously, it maybe something unconscious. Although I don't like hookpulls I nearly always analyse them and work out why. I have time on my hands with the fish I target, and can spend plenty of time at the lake(s), so to miss a fish or 2 does not normally worry me unduly. I admit that I have particular favourite brands and types of hook, and very rarely use any others as I'm not a "Fashion Victim", so whatever I tie has to be able to work effectively with what I do. I do test rigs out at times, although the palm and thumb test I think are crude and ineffective. Fish don't feed that way, they can't pull the hooklink away, so I don't think that they give a true representation. I feel that the fish takes in the bait, and the hook follows, then dependant on if taken back or ejected drops into the bottom lip or not. To get the bait taken back comfortably then make sure the feeding situation is right. Don't get me wrong, thats just my way of thinking. When I had a series of hookpulls last year I looked to possible reasons and decided that my all braid rig was getting caught up in weed patches around the clear areas, so without thinking I tied up some Combi links, Amnesia boom to Supersilk bottom, this change immediately resulted in numbers of fish on the bank. I honestly don't know why I did it, but felt that the Stiff section would lie flat on the clear bed, and the braid would be natural in or over the top of the weed The next water I went onto I had a couple of hookpulls on my standard braid rig and line aligned version, so worked out and decided that on this lake the weed and detritus was masking the hookpoint. I had also observed that the fish I was targetting was not going to accept rigs on the standard Silt/chod or a pop-up set-up. A change to lift the hookpoint with my version of the 1up 1down (Mushroom) rig immediately all fish were hooked dead centre of the bottom lip. When I started fishing a totally different water this year in terms of pressure and Big Fish I changed away from my basics to a sliding/revolving rig for a couple of reasons; The fish were more pressured than most of the fish around my local waters, and I wanted a rig that would behave pretty much the same on the clay or gravel lakebed that is in the swim I have fished so far. I've not done too bad banking a few when I went onto it. Again the fish have been hooked nicely bottom lip and in a couple of occasions had hooked very deeply and were not going to come out in a month of Sundays during the fight. Strangely one of the first fish I hooked was a new 30 for the water and wasn't recognised by any of the other anglers. I can't see this fish getting away with it all the time (it did actually have someones rig in the corner of its lip, which I didn't discover until I went to lift it for photos), but did my rig make a difference? I guess we never know the whole truth as we catch a fish, and we don't really know whether the new rig was the reason for it, or whether it would have come to a standard. As I've said loads of times we really want to keep it as simple as possible, yet some fish just can get away with it plenty of times without us even knowing. Just about every rig gets ejected without us getting a hook-up, so a new development happens or is contrived. How often will the Lead set up make a difference to what we do? Do Rig mechanics make a massive difference or do we forget to consider the other factors, how we feed, where we position our rigs? Or do the whole lot have to be considered in total and in part?

Quite so! Different people prefer different patterns as well, so is this any use? Best Bottom bait hook FLB's are a great 'ook, very strong, you will not snap one of them, and the point is simply awesome. I will say though if you are fishing waters that are silty, and the fish have softer mouthes then they can cut a bit, so be very careful where and when you use them! I always thought it was spelt "Hiya"

Benji, Thank you. A very serious question with genuine concern I'm going to move this into UK Carp Fishing Stickies, it is a very important useful piece of advice. I'm pretty much with Levi on this, although I nearly always use forceps to grip the hook rather than one of the In-line disgorgers that he refers to. Thats a handy tip about the "smack" tap on the back of the hand. Can now legitimately get smacked wrists Grip the hook as tight as you can with forceps, and gently push out in the opposite direction to how it went in. Very few hooks actually stick, but one or two can be enough to make it a difficult job. If the hook point even comes out another hole from where it went in, I always gently push it out past the barb and snip the hook. The cost of a hook towards damaging a fish, the fish will win every time, I'll snip the hook. Final Point, a quick dose of Klinik, or other Hook treatment will always be a good idea The forceps and wire cutters should always be handy to where you unhook the fish, as close to your unhooking mat. I have my unhooking mat pegged next to the back of my bivvy, and attached to one of the guy tethers are my forceps and wire cutters.

Even my Loop knots get attached to a swivel. If you use a swivel and want to use a loop knot, then the knot in the Kryston packaging works with minimal loss of strength. Tie, but don't pull tight, an overhand knot where you want the loop to end, put swivel or link on, with tag end go down through the overhand knot and then go 4 times round the main piece of line and then back up through the overhand loop. Lubricate knot and gradually pull both ends to tighten. Never had one of them give way

I use a loop knot attached to the swivel with Amnesia and Combi rigs, and a Uni knot for Braid and coated braids. It is the movement issue that I figure on. A stiffer hooklink will not move as much as a more supple hooklink, so to allow that extra movement and confidence I work out what I need to achieve, that includes checking what sort of material I need for the hooklink.

I shall not put down the wicked thoughts I have about the brand then

Why not use enough Shrink tubing to go down the shank to hold the hair in place. Perfect when you have the hair coming off opposite the point. As for using Silicon tube, different silicon, different behaviour. If the stuff you gets splits, then use one that doesn't And why does it entail tying a new rig if it does split? Thread the tiny piece of tubing onto baiting needle, pull hair through tubing, and then thread over point being careful NOT to catch fibres if you use a braid hair. Simples!

Was it Richworth and Anchor who made the Leads with the attached Attractor capsules? I believe one of them also made a fizzing tablet

Local Lake this week. One swim, absolutely disgusting, Line, Leadcore leaders, rigs, broken glass, Beer Cans and bottles, the remains of fires in the swim. Just out of the swim, in almost every part of the undergrowth, and some plain ground, the whole area was covered in Human Excrement and that piece of Bog roll. Just over the road from the lake is a Picnic area with a Public Toilet For Gods sake, if you do get caught short on the bank, BAG IT OR BIN IT.

Have a read of this: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=9536 think we may have gone into rigs and rig length in this. Bear in mind you may well need to change the rig length dependant on what the fish are used to, the bottom make-up and what other people are doing. Even the distance you are casting may make some difference

Was reading a couple of other threads on rigs and thought that I could bring this one back to the fore for some more reading. Are your rigs catching? If yes then keep using them. If you start to find that results dry up then you may need to adapt, but bear in mind the effectiveness of your rigs can depend on how or what you feed, just by increasing the free bait may make them effective again. Have a read http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37416 Carp picking up individual baits may need to have different rigs from those feeding over a bed of bait. It may be as simple as the length of the rig or the hair. I do know that when I use Pop-ups and Snowmen hookbaits I tend to "complicate" the issue as I prefer to use a D-rig set-up for them, don't ask why, a Confidence issue I guess

I was reading another thread and Levigsp came up with a great saying "if you cannot work out the mechanics of a ", this was referring to a particular set-up (actually 2) in relation to somebody's fishing. Here is an absolute confession for you: I DO NOT THINK ABOUT RIG MECHANICS! Totally strange totally weird, but is it as unusual as that? It may not be that unusual for a couple of reasons, people generally don't think about their fishing, or the other without thinking about it they have an understanding, do we go back to the Watercraft? I watch the Carp wherever possible to find out about the way they feed (suck and blow or pick up and eat), I check hookholds and where the hook has gone in to see if anything needs to be changed. I match Hooklink materials that I think will work best to the lakebed and I play about with how I put the hook on the line in relation to the best hooking potential. i.e. I'm currently preferring a Line Aligner over a standard Knotless. How much about Rig Mechanics is something that is thought about or is that also a "Natural"?

Went down to "my" lake today for a couple of hours and was absolutely appalled. I ended up with a number of Carrier Bags of rubbish that had been dropped. From Fishing line measuring tens of metres, Deadbait Packets, Trace Packets, sweetcorn tins, shoelaces cut in half, and a Pike Trace, complete with half a sprat. Add to that the other rubbish, paper etc I think it was 4or5 bags of rubbish picked up and binned. The sick part is that behind some of the swims are Rubbish bins. The rubbish had been dropped on the bank 2 metres away from them, looking like no attempt to bin it. Those who drop litter should be banned from every fishery in Britain, or even the world and should have their right to life revoked FOR HEAVENS SAKE, EVERY ANGLER, PUT YOUR RUBBISH IN THE BIN or even better TAKE IT HOME AND BIN IT

Still part of the English Course Work? Read it as part of my English Studies at school. An interesting book (and play) and after reading a bit spooky. How to make everyone in a family feel extremely guilty for their actions