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Hi all. Friday is the last possible day for fishing at Bury Hill in Surrey. It's such a sad loss to the local fishing scene. The old lake closed to fishing a few years ago when the old boat house was sold off and the place became members only. Now the last day is almost upon us, does anyone else have any memories to share of this significant venue. I'm lucky to be able to book on for 36 hours from tomorrow morning, so I'll have one last crack at temple. I've always blanked on temple so far, but had my PB (32lb 10oz) out of the old lake back in May 2013, beating my previous best of 12lb by a big margin. Hopefully something will be arranged for fishing in the future, but who knows. It will be missed.

until they start damming up and peoples houses flood. apparently it’s happening in some places already

interesting post! where can i buy a tin of this, cheers! my view is & in agreement what rod hutchinson wrote all those years ago in: The carp strikes back...with 1 addition below* ie what i bloded in ya post "was missing from their food, carp would search out foods that provided all the nutrients they required" back then when most carpers made home-baits....most lakes get hammered with the going bait, early 80's semo-soya-flour sweeter flavor....once results started to flatter, someone tries protein AND cleans up! all get on to protein...at some point results decline, fish meal come alone, then meat, liver, then tigers, then hemp etc, etc ...a constant ongoing cycle... case in point, do ya remember the story about andy little on savay....he was spending a FORTUNE on protein, his results were TOP NOTCH ...however he couldn't afford the expense with the amount of protein he was paying out for, so he decided to do a test and substitute the milk-protein for semo-soya-flour mix ONLY using the same flavor as in the successful milk-protein, to his amazement he got the same successful results! * I believe carp have *ADDICTIONS* just like us lol who can resit eating a bag of cheddar cheese & onion crisps even knowing its c r a p junk-food? ...i open a 150G bag only want to eat a few BUT...end up scoffing the lot down in 1 sitting! its simply an addiction to those TASTY crisps even though you can eat bags AND still not feel full! If you look at the last 25 years the BIG NAMED brand commercial carp boilies sold, NONE are HNV...YET they WORK quite well don't they? I reckon the recipe guys behind the BIG brand commercial carp boilies are making bait based on the above*...of course imo.

I didn't notice til afterwards this is a battery one mine is rechargeable. I just use it on top of my camera without a flash seems to work OK but I don't catch that many 😂

I have a Korum pop up mat and its fine for carp up to 30lb and I have a korum opportunist mat bag... both very usable walled mats and both quite reasonaby priced

The pop up one wasn't too bad

26lb 8oz at first light this morning 👌

When Fred Wilton came up with 'The HNV Theory' back in the 1970's I don't think that he was wrong, but I do think that it has been unintentionally misused, misquoted and misinformed. I think from memory he reckoned that after watching rabbits in Australia chew wooden posts to get an additional mineral that was missing from their food, carp would search out foods that provided all the nutrients they required. His answer was to come up with a milk protein boilie or paste providing everything nutritionally they needed. Skinning the paste made it small fish proof. This is where it gets difficult; milk protein is not the easiest protein to digest requiring a specific enzyme, lactase. If there is no or limited amount of lactase, the milk boilie can't be digested, filling the carp up until it is excreted. This brings up that milk protein baits don't need massive amounts of freebies. Milk protein baits were effective, especially so when an additive called Bengers was added. Bengers contained amylase, trypsin and lactase, helping with the digestion of the baits. The Bengers meant that larger quantities could be used. Then we have the 'revolution', from a guy named Hutchy... He disagreed with Fred Wilton, not over the theory, but on the best source of protein; he believed that the best protein source was fishmeal. We move on in time, where the only non meat best protein source with easily digestible and fully utilisable proteins is yeast. Now I'm sure Mainline have got that down to a T, their baits may not be high protein, but everything is useable, from the roughage, the protein and carbohydrates.